problamatic e6 sicilian

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vivekthejoker777

whenevr i play against the e6 sicilian....im a strictly open sicilian player...i find that e6 sicilian is like a wall....so strong that its hard to break through...what do you guys play...any suggestions,,,new ideas....dvd...books  or any sources you can refer and recomend me ...wll be grateful...thank you

cheers!

ghostofmaroczy
vivekthejoker777 wrote:

i find that e6 sicilian is like a wall

The ...e6 Sicilian is a wall.  Give up.

Just kidding.

I'll offer you this:

When it comes to assessing the range of characteristics of the many variations of Sicilian, the Taimanov is in the middle.

Taimanov: 1 e4 c5 2 Nf3 e6 3 d4 cxd4 4 Nxd4 Nc6

Indirect

Well, for starters, it's usually not a good idea to castle Queenside... (I still do, but I usually play for fun) 
Also, don't try a Yugoslav setup, as it's really likely it's not going to work.... 

Yaroslavl
vivekthejoker777 wrote:

whenevr i play against the e6 sicilian....im a strictly open sicilian player...i find that e6 sicilian is like a wall....so strong that its hard to break through...what do you guys play...any suggestions,,,new ideas....dvd...books  or any sources you can refer and recomend me ...wll be grateful...thank you

cheers!

Look up a book titled, "Play the Najdorf Scheveningen Style"  It will give you lots of insights into to that e6 wall you mention in your post #1

TitanCG

One way is to use setups with Bd3 and Be3, castle short and try to pawnstorm w/ Kh1, f4 and g4. There are a lot of classical games you can watch with this strategy. With the bishop on d3 you won't need to change plans when they try the Kan, you won't need to know what a Kan is and you won't have to yell at it. 

Sometimes they will play a setup like ...e6, ...Nf6 and ...Nc6 (in that order) and this usually leads to different positions. If you are ok with the Sveshnikov then you can transpose with Ndb5 and Bf4. 

Another way to play against e6 sicilians is 6.g3. You can try the usual pawnstorm or try a plan w/ Re1 and preparing some tactics w/ Nxc6 and e5.

TwoMove

Bd3, and Be3 is a good recommendation. It was the main-line until late 90's or so, and it is not a bad idea for club players to play older more straightforward ideas. There are differences whether black plays Nc6, Taimanov, or d6 then nd7c5, Kan though. With arguably more correct Nc6, black can initiate very concrete play with Ne5 exploiting g4 not defended. In the Kan approach black doesn't have to castle into the pawn storm, can play knight to c5, ready for NxB at right moment, and play b5/b6, and Bb7. White's fine but it is a completely different sort of game.

6g3 isn't very effective against setup's where black hasn't played Nc6, can play Bb4 instead.

ghostofmaroczy
TwoMove wrote:

With arguably more correct Nc6, black can initiate very concrete play with Ne5 exploiting g4 not defended.

Bring the argument TwoMove.  Bring it.

Jimmykay

Have you considered the Keres Attack?

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e6 6. g4

I play the Scheveningen and find this move really hard to play against.

MetalRatel

If you like to be aggressive:

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 e6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4

Scheveningen

4...Nf6 5.Nc3 d6 6.g4!? is sharp.

Pin Variation

4...Nf6 5.Nc3 Bb4!? 6.e5 is a minor line that should be studied. White gets a lot of attacking chances.

Taimanov

4...Nc6 5.Nc3 Qc7 6.Be3 a6 7.Bd3 is an interesting main line. This may be more promising than the English Attack.

Kan

4...a6 5.Nc3 Qc7 6.Bd3

This is similar to the Taimanov line above. (In fact, 6...Nc6 7.Be3 transposes.) However, be aware that 6...Nf6 7.Be3 Bb4! is inaccurate for White. Usually the bishop is better placed on d2 in the Kan. White has to make a choice between 7.f4, 7.Qe2, and 7.0-0. Each of these moves has its points.

I am studying these lines for Black and I consider these to be the most aggressive and testing options for White. If you want to be safe, I'd consider the Be2 main lines. There play typically reaches a Scheveningen or Taimanov. The Kan move order is probably the trickiest to handle, because there are a lot of transpositional possibilities. One example:

4...a6 5.Nc3 Qc7 6.Be2 Nf6 7.0-0 Bb4!? 8.Bg5! Be7! 9.Be3 d6 10.f4

is a line given by Delchev and Semkov transposing to the Scheveningen, but 8...Bxc3!? 9.Bxf6 gxf6 10.dxc3 Qxc3 is also an interesting line with complex play.

Experts vs. the Sicilian covers most of the aggressive main lines I have mentioned, but you may need to update the theory.

Yaroslavl
Jimmykay wrote:

Have you considered the Keres Attack?

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 e6 6. g4

I play the Scheveningen and find this move really hard to play against.

vivekthejoker777

i gave up 1.e4...im going into positional d4 lines

TwoMove

MetalRatel's post has a nice bit of content. It's a good idea for the black player to have Kan and Taimanov, flexibility with Nc6, in repetoire. Can then home in, on white player's playing certain setup's by autopilot, and cause them the maximum problems. Delchev has a recent repetoire book recommending this, and can see in for example Karpov's games from the 70's, he was aware of this idea too.

ViktorHNielsen
vivekthejoker777 wrote:

i gave up 1.e4...im going into positional d4 lines

I don't like d4, in way too many lines white has to give up material to keep pressure on. Or allow a kingside attack. It's so depressing