Qe7 in the Muzio Gambit (KGA). Advice?

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Travisjw

I play king's gambit quite a bit, but saw a line I'd never seen before in a game this morning.   It was 5 minute blitz so I really didn't have time to analyze very much.    Here's the game:

 

 

Qe7 was the move I've never seen before.  I'm wondering if anyone else has seen it, or at least can explain what black's aiming for here.   Anyone know?

Travisjw

Hmmm.   I tried to edit my first comment, and it still looks broken :(.   Maybe chess.com doesn't like the Opera browser or something.   Anyways, here's the game longhand

 1. e4 e5  
  2. f4 exf4  
  3. Nf3 g5  
  4. Bc4 g4  
  5. O-O Qe7  (the mainline here is 5... gxf3 6. Qxf3, Qf6)
  6. d4 Bg7  
  7. c3 gxf3  
  8. Qxf3 Nc6  
  9. Bxf4 Nxd4  
 10. cxd4 Bxd4+  
 11. Kh1 Bxb2  
 12. Nc3 c6  
 13. Rae1 h6  
 14. Bc7 Rh7  
 15. e5 Bxc3  
 16. Qxc3 Rg7  
 17. Bd6 Qg5 (I discovered later that I had a forced mate here had I played 17 Bxe7)
 18. Qf3 Qg6  
 19. Re4 h5
 20. Rf4 Nh6  
 21. Rf6 Qh7
 22. Qxh5 Ng4
 23. Rxf7  
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Qe7 on move 5 was what confused me.  Usually black grabs the knight here and moves the queen to f6 after 6. Qxf3.  Black's general strategy in this line being to use the f4 pawn as a delaying shield, and while white spends time getting through it black gets a turn or two to develop his pieces.   It's not particularly effective (probably why top players rarely opt for the muzio as black) but it seems considerably better than Qe7 which doesn't really slow the white attack down at all.

LOL, I did more to hurt myself with the ill advised pawn on c3.   Luckily black bailed me out of that by counter-saccing the knight on d4 :)

Streptomicin

This is the game??

Travisjw

That's the game allright.   Must be the browser, I'll have to go DL firefox...

Hehehe, I'm very used to seeing new stuff in the KGA, I just usually have an easier time of understanding the logic behind it (and when I don't understand right away the logic becomes very clear later on after I lose to it).   The Qe7 move really leaves me baffled though.

Black has the same queen check shenanigans from the f6 square (via d4), with the added benifit of denying me a potential rook pin on e1, and providing support to the f4 pawn.   *shrugs*   Maybe I'm overthinking this and it's just a bad move :p.

Dietmar

I used to play the Muzio when I was half my age so I still dimly remember the mainlines. I don't think Qe7 is a bad move. The backdrop is that it does not cover f4. In the main line White plays e5 attacking the f6 queen in order to open the e-file. It wouldn't work now but d3 would be appropriate. It anchors the Bc4 and allows the Bc1 to get in. Overall, it seems like a small shuffle of moves compared to the main line. Unfortunately, in the age of Fritz and Rybka I would be more than suspect to even try the Muzio. If a opponent prepared for it you may find yourself on the losing end in no time. There was just an article in Chess Life by Dan Heisman about a look at the Fried Liver attack  where a deeper look with Rybka refuted the Lolli variation (d4) and completely redeemed Black's Nxd5.