queen gambit openings repertoire

as a beginner player i have always wanted to improve my openings againts stronger player whenever i had increased my ratings. in my opinion, a lot of stronger player than me prefer to play the 'book openings' to 'non theorical openings' of a beginner player that i played againts.

moreover, stronger player typically doing just fine againts outragous move which came naturally from experience and gradually exploit that vulnerability to their advantage. the question is, i have been learning a few basic opening principle and applying to my game which is king pawn opening. but i would like to learn d4 openings instead, because i can memorize it better from the left to the right(personal preference). is there any book recommendation and hopefully your own repertoire that easy to memorize and often you have encountered in the game?

ps: i meant if there's a books, what? if you have frequently used some variation that just fine for jump start to explore by a novice to openings, would you like to show me a practical example? thanks

You are taking the wrong approach.  You don't just play Queen Pawn openings because the Queen is on the left and you are "left-minded" (not using the left side of your brain, but prefering to work left to right - kinda like having a habit of sitting on the left side of a church and refusing to ever sit on the right side.

1.d4 and 1.e4 are two different beasts.  They are not left-handed chess and right-handed chess.

Also, you said the deadly sinful word, memorize.  You shouldn't be memorizing.  For example, in the Queen's Gambit, after 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6, Anybody can memorize White's 4 main options here (I emphasize, MAIN OPTIONS), 4.cxd5, 4.Nf3, 4.Bf4, and 4.Bg5, but what are the differences between each of them?  What is White's plan in each?  Why are other moves inferior?  Etc.  Just randomly picking one of the 4 moves and memorizing subsequent moves is useless.  As you face a 1000 player, he will likely go out of book early.  If you don't understand why his strange move is inferior, then memorizing your moves is utterly useless!

ThrillerFan sure is an angry little fellow.

I like the queenside better too usually since the king while a short ranged piece and attacks against it are quite forcing (obligation to do something about a check) it still defends the squares around it whereas the queen being mobile can switch from the queenside (where there's no king usually) to the kingside if needed. 

For the queen's gambit you want to study the accepted lines first:

1.d4,d5 2.c4,dxc4 3.Nf3 you want.  3.e4 is perfectly playable, but this commits the e-pawn too much as it can no longer hold the d-pawn with e3. White's d-pawn is black's target, so you want to develop, castle, and hold it.

TheGreatOogieBoogie wrote:

I like the queenside better too usually since the king while a short ranged piece and attacks against it are quite forcing (obligation to do something about a check) it still defends the squares around it whereas the queen being mobile can switch from the queenside (where there's no king usually) to the kingside if needed. 

For the queen's gambit you want to study the accepted lines first:

1.d4,d5 2.c4,dxc4 3.Nf3 you want.  3.e4 is perfectly playable, but this commits the e-pawn too much as it can no longer hold the d-pawn with e3. White's d-pawn is black's target, so you want to develop, castle, and hold it.

thanks boogie..

@ ThrillerFan i'm sorry if i had triggered your 'rage' but, maybe i.'ve just asked the question with the wrong sentences. the word memorize could be meant the idea behind it, i never ever memirizing the move itself and just because i think i should memorize the pattern of it that layed out on the board instead. in order to achieve and try to understand it, i have to find a resource which is the variation itself to know how it works in the particular basis, so i can figure out the intention behind the move by experience of studying the variation and keep the idea inside my brain. to achieve this i have to memorize the 'sin' and use it in the game. like it or not the facts is that people implicitly memorize the openings formation so he can recognize it whenever he get the formation. and i think sooner or later i have to memorize the pattern. correct me if im wrong...

ps.: left to the right in my case is mind mapping that i have visually labelled in my head and it works even in my education courses. and also i have typed 'some variation to explore' not to memorize, because i want to memorize the formation pattern and the key concept because hate the move memorization which can lead to out of book if the opponent response is outageous. and it wont help me in tactical improvement.....btw, i'm 'alternate handed chess player' that have been playing guitar right handed and drawing a sketch with my right side of the brain. cheers.....;)

Stay on topic or shut up, douche

Whoosh! (The sound of Irony flying over someones head.)

Queens gambit FTW!

Uhm, my post #3 is not a rage.  It's simple facts.  I'm a 2100 player, I would know a lot more than over 90% of the people on here.

Don't listen to ghostofmaroczy - He is a douche bag who has been harassing me on this site after any post I put, no matter whether it be answering an opening question, a question about GMs, you name it.

And while there is some memorization involved, each memorized move must also be understood.  If you don't understand the move, then there is no use memorizing it because what happens if your opponent plays a different, inferior move?  Do you understand why the move deemed best is truly deemed best?  Or do you just "know that such-and-such a move is best" with no reasoning behind it?

And what I'm saying is that whether you plan right to left or left to right should not determine your openings.  If chess were a symmetrical game, then there would be no difference between e4 and d4, but chess is not a symmetrical game because of the King and Queen.

And actually, the position is reversed for Black.  When you have White, "Kingside" is on your right, but as Black, it's on your left.

All 64 squares must be accounted for, at all times!  So it makes no sense to restrict a certain sequence to your moves.  Even openings that look like the same thing that are mirror images are nothing alike.  In other words, the Ruy Lopez (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5) is NOTHING like the Veresov (1.d4 d5 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bg5), even though the latter looks like some "left-handed version" of the former.

So basically, this "left to right" garbage is just that, garbage.  I don't look "left to right", I look at "the big picture" as a whole, all 64 squares, accounting for long range and short range pieces, and you should be doing the same, and until you do, you will fail, promised!

"So basically, this 'left to right' garbage is just that, garbage.  I don't look 'left to right', I look at 'the big picture' as a whole, all 64 squares, accounting for long range and short range pieces, and you should be doing the same, and until you do, you will fail, promised!"

Listen to him as the left-right thing is nonsense but rather kingside vs.queenside is meaningful.  The entire board must be taken into account with priority given to the center.  If the center is deadlocked (it will be usually, even an open center you'd deal with opposing knights controling these squares) then look for play on the side they have the most significant weaknesses.  Really think to ask if a weakness is really a weakness since if you're up against a Sveshnikov player you'll notice the doubled isolated f-pawns and even a king castled there, but trying to exploit it will leave black with a great game.  He has spare f-pawns to strike at your e-pawn and decent dynamic chances.  Like any Sicilian you want to watch f5 (especially, to restrain an ...f5 advance) but especially d5 and d6 and sometimes b6.  It's all about restraining black's freeing and/or activating pawn thrust, especially ...d5. 

You can play Queen's pawn openings without much memorization. I do it myself at 1800+ level (well I actually play both 1. e4 and 1. d4, and my 1. e4 repertoire is also based on getting simple positions without having to know super-theoretical lines). I agree that knowing themes is much more important than variations in all but a few lines. You need to know some Meran, Moscow, or Noteboom theory, depending on what you allow, maybe some QGD move order stuff. Also I suppose you need to know how to regain the pawn in the QGA and how to avoid falling into cheapo traps in the Cambridge Springs. Finally, you need to know either 3. Nc3 or 3. Nf3 vs the Chigoein, and as long as you know a few moves for each one, you'll be sure to get a small but sturdy advantage. While that might sound like a lot to a lower-rated player, it's really not. Strategic plans, like the minority attack of b4-b5 in QGDE, or Qe2+e4 in Classical Slav, are more important than that.

The biggest plus to memorizing lines in openings you play/meet a lot is that it saves you time on the clock in the opening .  You dont want your opponent to have a big time advantage on you when you reach a complicated middlegame .  As time controls in US tournament play only seem to get faster this time saving in the opening becomes even more important . 

Okay, i'll take your positive feedback @everyone with the grain of salt

But i'm not advanced player that know what you mentioned above such as moscow, meran, cambridge spring and chigorin 'theorically' cuz i've just started to learn d4 opening as my first attemps to improve my openings knowledge rather playing blindly to win the game but losing long run knowledge for improvement that i will be achieving in the next level. My intention about this approach is to accumulate the general knowledge of the openings(and other stuff ofcourse) 'needed' at my current level as much as possible to make use of it as a fundamental theory and practically valuable in my skills.

Btw, i've just get busted with the Dutch defense which is after i cant figure out how to handle this dutch that in fact because i dont really know this theme before. Ofcourse another crazy attack that was struggled me a lot. What do you think about the possible defenses(relative and relevant) i will be facing(mosly) in order using d4 openings?

you should get yourself a repertoirebook on 1.d4. then after every game you play you look up that spesific line while you analyse it and learn it

I analyzed one of your games and found some issues:

Want to find other original moves that seemingly violate principles but with some calculation and strategy actually follow them?  Check out Questions of Modern Chess Theory.  There's an English version by Quality Chess and Fischer taught himself Russian to read the original and other Soviet publications (they had no English version of QoMCT back then)

TheGreatOogieBoogie wrote:

Want to find other original moves that seemingly violate principles but with some calculation and strategy actually follow them?  Check out Questions of Modern Chess Theory.  There's an English version by Quality Chess and Fischer taught himself Russian to read the original and other Soviet publications (they had no English version of QoMCT back then)

Wow, thanks so much, thaat was helpfull because i dont really know how to analyze my own game(lacked of knowledge), and at the time i play that game i felt really bad cuz i have no clue how to learn chess properly. Also, i have no reference where and what to start first other than opening and still get cofused and sometime i lose a confidence and move the piece like a 'zombie' because i have frustated being a weak player. My first goal is to find a friend for sparring at my level or a little bit higher just because advanced player may would not play me because they are likely gonna be weaker i think.

I'll check your suggestion....

Sometime i have achieved a 'dream' opening position againts beginner player too, in FEN of white side going like this

2bppb2-2n2n2-pppq1ppp-r3k2r but i cant figure out how to strike, again this is my weaknesses that i have to correct. Just want to know is that blitz game can be bad for beginner since i have no one to play otb in real life?that means i always playing virtually, any effect?