queen's Indian attack

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is there any opening like Queens indian attack??

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I can't imagine so considering the queen's indian ATTACK does not exist.  There is however a queens indian defense. 

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I think he means a white verion of the QID. If fact it does exist and is called Nimzo-Larsen attack. As the name shows it has been played quite a lot by the hypermodern player nimzowitch, and fifty years later also occasionally employed by the immaginative Larsen. The opening can arise either via 1.Nf3 d5 2.b3 or 1.b3 d5 2.Nf3. 

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I know it as Larsen opening.

Factly, I played it quite a bit some thirty five years ago, because I was a big Larsen fan. My score with it is by far the worst I ever had with white under any opening, for a simple reason: My positional skill was inadequate to master the opening properly.

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I've played it successfully as White when I was younger, as the Nimzo-Larsen (1. Nf3 d5 2. b3) as opposed to the pure Larsen (1. b3).  I rarely play that anymore.

If you're willing to face the From Gambit, you might be better served to play 1. f4 first, which gains a tempo on the more aggressive QID lines.  I have this humorous story about a game I played the Nimzo-Larsen against a "2500" who got his rating from using flaws in the USCF rating system, but as a result of psychological damage resulting from an automobile accident some years ago, really believed he was that good.  I got a great game and, as you might expect, when I got up to go to the loo or just to walk around, my friends were all pushing me to beat him, not knowing they were not just encouraging me, but putting heaps of pressure on me.  I did eventually win, and my opponent was so affected by whatever afflicted him that he was convinced I must have played a really outstanding game to beat him.

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There are at least two good books out there about 1.b3 - "Play 1.b3" by Odessky (2008) and "Nimzo-Larsen Attack" by Jacobs and Tait (2001). I love especially the first one for its style, though the second one is a must too if you really want to play that opening. 

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A word of warning about the Odessky book...

Although it is a fun read, most of the analysis is based on blitz games played by Odessky himself

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A fun variation (DO NOT PLAY THIS!) is the Norfolk Gambit.  1. Nf3 d5 2. b3 c5 3. e4?! dxe4 4. Ne5 Qd4 5. Bb2! Qxb2 6. Nc3 and the Queen is trapped, although Black gets compensation.  I have only played this once, against a young pre-IM Daniel Ludwig, about 10 years old at the time.  He did not go for the wild line, but, if I remember, played 3. ... Nf6, allowing White to equalize.  Nowadays, I'm certain I would not be so lucky.

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Arctor wrote:

A word of warning about the Odessky book...

Although it is a fun read, most of the analysis is based on blitz games played by Odessky himself


He admits so himself (and makes a point about it). Anyway, the lines he discusses are nevertheless either standard (and generally in good accord with the book by Jacobs and Tait) or, when innovations, were concocted at home and NOT during some blitz game. E.g. I very much like his structured discussion of the various options in the line where Black responds 1...Nf6 and 2...g7, aiming for a King's Indian setup.  

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There is a game in which I used the Nimzo-Larsen in U16 Finnish championship. I knew that my opponent liked very much the sicilian accelerated dragon and reversed Grob, so I knew he was going to delevop his bishop to g7-square. Once before I had tried this gambit idea against him...


So far my success in that tournament wasn't that good (I was ranked 5 but at the time I was playing the last boards) so I knew I had to suprise him. When the clock started ticking I used 15 minutes for my first move. I remembered that I have beaten him with 1.c4 b6! (my opponent likes to play 1.c4, 2.g4 and my move pretty much prevented it) so I gave 1.Nf3 a try. 



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