Resurrecting the Queen's Indian Attack (QIA)

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Yigor

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darkunorthodox88

It's a naka special and has a pretty good win rate. It's very easy for black to play normal moves and end up with IQD with no real compensation for it. IF black is well booked, however, black should equalize a bit quicker than with any of the big 4 white openings.

IF you do want to play it, i suggest you also prepare for black playing  a london system. 

drmrboss
darkunorthodox88 wrote:

It's a naka special and has a pretty good win rate. It's very easy for black to play normal moves and end up with IQD with no real compensation for it. IF black is well booked, however, black should equalize a bit quicker than with any of the big 4 white openings.

IF you do want to play it, i suggest you also prepare for black playing  a london system. 

Unfortunately, all opening moves have been extensively analysed these days and black should be comfortable to move in any opening line. (Finding a surprise opening preparation is like a Jackpot) 

darkunorthodox88
drmrboss wrote:
darkunorthodox88 wrote:

It's a naka special and has a pretty good win rate. It's very easy for black to play normal moves and end up with IQD with no real compensation for it. IF black is well booked, however, black should equalize a bit quicker than with any of the big 4 white openings.

IF you do want to play it, i suggest you also prepare for black playing  a london system. 

Unfortunately, all opening moves have been extensively analysed these days and black should be comfortable to move in any opening line. (Finding a surprise opening preparation is like a Jackpot) 

just because any individual opening line is pacified by good prep doesnt mean, most people walk around with this knowledge.

Yigor
darkunorthodox88 wrote:

It's a naka special and has a pretty good win rate. It's very easy for black to play normal moves and end up with IQD with no real compensation for it. IF black is well booked, however, black should equalize a bit quicker than with any of the big 4 white openings.

IF you do want to play it, i suggest you also prepare for black playing  a london system. 

 

Thanks for this contribution! happy.png

Firebrandx
Yigor wrote:
Merovwig wrote:

Was it dead?

 

No officially recognized name, no special ECO code, it's not normal.


It's the Nimzo-Larsen Attack by transposition. I have a book on the Nimzo-Larsen and it has chapters covering whether you open with 1. b3 or 1. Nf3. It's just a matter of preference. 1. b3 is more sharp if black plays the immediate 1...e5, whereas 1. Nf3, 2. b3 prevents e5 and cuts some of the theory you need to know down. I still prefer 1. b3 myself because of how trappy it can be.

Yigor
Firebrandx wrote:

It's the Nimzo-Larsen Attack by transposition. I have a book on the Nimzo-Larsen and it has chapters covering whether you open with 1. b3 or 1. Nf3. It's just a matter of preference. 1. b3 is more sharp if black plays the immediate 1...e5, whereas 1. Nf3, 2. b3 prevents e5 and cuts some of the theory you need to know down. I still prefer 1. b3 myself because of how trappy it can be.

 

For me, QIA is b3+e3+Nf3 on the white side. So, it's in the intersection of NLA and Réti theories. peshka.png

Firebrandx
Yigor wrote:

For me, QIA is b3+e3+Nf3 on the white side. So, it's in the intersection of NLA and Réti theories.


And that's a Nimzo-Larsen Attack series of moves. We can go around in circles about this, but at the end of the day, that's what has been established as the name for playing a reversed QID.

Yigor

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cricket7890

Go QIA!!!!!

cricket7890
Firebrandx wrote:
Yigor wrote:

For me, QIA is b3+e3+Nf3 on the white side. So, it's in the intersection of NLA and Réti theories.


And that's a Nimzo-Larsen Attack series of moves. We can go around in circles about this, but at the end of the day, that's what has been established as the name for playing a reversed QID.

Why is the Reversed King's Indian known as the King's Indian Attack? If your theory is true the King's Indian Attack should be known as its "real" name, the Barcza System. The same follows for the Queen's Indian, it should be called the Queen's Indian Attack, not the Nimzo-Larsen or Réti

cricket7890

Go QIA

sndeww

I’ve tried to play this via bird move order but never really got anywhere. So I dropped it in favor of the bird Leningrad which still serves me well. I just don’t know how to nullify queenside counterplay 

Yigor
B1ZMARK wrote:

I’ve tried to play this via bird move order but never really got anywhere. So I dropped it in favor of the bird Leningrad which still serves me well. I just don’t know how to nullify queenside counterplay 

 

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Firebrandx
cricket7890 wrote:
Firebrandx wrote:
Yigor wrote:

For me, QIA is b3+e3+Nf3 on the white side. So, it's in the intersection of NLA and Réti theories.


And that's a Nimzo-Larsen Attack series of moves. We can go around in circles about this, but at the end of the day, that's what has been established as the name for playing a reversed QID.

Why is the Reversed King's Indian known as the King's Indian Attack? If your theory is true the King's Indian Attack should be known as its "real" name, the Barcza System. The same follows for the Queen's Indian, it should be called the Queen's Indian Attack, not the Nimzo-Larsen or Réti


It's not about 'theories', it's about fact. I don't have to answer to you as to why names got labeled the way they did. I wasn't the one that came up with them. Nevertheless, the opening already has a name, and it's the Nimzo-Larsen Attack.

cricket7890
Firebrandx wrote:
cricket7890 wrote:
Firebrandx wrote:
Yigor wrote:

For me, QIA is b3+e3+Nf3 on the white side. So, it's in the intersection of NLA and Réti theories.


And that's a Nimzo-Larsen Attack series of moves. We can go around in circles about this, but at the end of the day, that's what has been established as the name for playing a reversed QID.

Why is the Reversed King's Indian known as the King's Indian Attack? If your theory is true the King's Indian Attack should be known as its "real" name, the Barcza System. The same follows for the Queen's Indian, it should be called the Queen's Indian Attack, not the Nimzo-Larsen or Réti


It's not about 'theories', it's about fact. I don't have to answer to you as to why names got labeled the way they did. I wasn't the one that came up with them. Nevertheless, the opening already has a name, and it's the Nimzo-Larsen Attack.

If you go and put the moves in for the QIA it has no name.

This has no name it just says: Réti Opening: Nimzowitsch-Larsen Attack, 2. . . c5

sndeww

Meaning it’s a nimzo Larsen...

AunTheKnight

That’s what I thought.

Yigor

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cricket7890
B1ZMARK wrote:

Meaning it’s a nimzo Larsen...

I mean it should be the QIA