The other thread caused me to look more deeply into the Scandi and in so doing I lightened up somewhat on my view of blacks prospects. In general black is doing well in practice, and the positions look fun / complicated. Though in certain lines, like that one, I still much prefer white.
The bitter truth is that nobody cares about a patzer's opnion.
The bitter truth is that nobody cares about a patzer's opnion.
The bitter truth is, after losing yet another argument, you now are left feeling bitter. But since you have no actual point left to make... you're going to revert, yet again, to some sort of desperate attempt at flexing or arguing from authority. You do this every time, very predictable.
Scandinavian is one of those openings like the French or the caro Kahn - it's objectively solid and as long as your white opponent doesn't shred you with entirely computer memorised theory then you'll get an ok middlegame.....however, you are also going to have to accept the fact that you'll be spat at and hated by every opponent you ever play it against so is it really worth burning bridges like that.
I humblely respect that you are a higher rated player than myself. But when did I ever have to be in the good graces of my opponent based on the defense that I choose to play? I thought that the beauty of chess was that white can choose to attack anyway they wish to and black has the option to defend themselves anyway they wish to.
The repertoire book I use for 3...Qa5 (The Scandinavian for Club Players) covers 4 g3 in chapter 8. The author prefers 4...Nf6 5 Bg2 Nc6 and then against 6 Nge2 for black to play aggressively with 6...h5 with a plan of castling queenside, increasing influence in the center, and trading off light squared bishops by getting it to c6. Against 6 Nf3 then g6, develop black's kingside first, get ready to push back in the center with ...Rd8, black focuses on light squares in white's camp, and prepares moves like ...Qh5 and ...Bg4. The lines run from 14 to 34 moves deep from pages 138 through 157.
The repertoire book I use for 3...Qa5 (The Scandinavian for Club Players) covers 4 g3 in chapter 8. The author prefers 4...Nf6 5 Bg2 Nc6 and then against 6 Nge2 for black to play aggressively with 6...h5 with a plan of castling queenside, increasing influence in the center, and trading off light squared bishops by getting it to c6. Against 6 Nf3 then g6, develop black's kingside first, get ready to push back in the center with ...Rd8, black focuses on light squares in white's camp, and prepares moves like ...Qh5 and ...Bg4. The lines run from 14 to 34 moves deep from pages 138 through 157.
I have this book, and I guess it's not my cup of tea. Some of his suggestions are unnecessarily complicated (like the suggestions against 4.g3) while there are serious omissions in other parts, the most important being this one:
The book does not deal at all with 10.Bd3! after which Black is in serious trouble, e.g. 10...Bxd3 11.Qxd3 Rd8 12.Qg3!
Thanks for the heads up in that line. Black may can survive but it appears very unpleasant to play. It looks like to fix this black needs to go all the way back to move 6 and play 6...c6 instead of 6...e6 in that line.
The book isn't meant to cover everything, it would have to be a whole lot more pages to do so. It's mainly a practical guide for club players and a good one at it I think.
The Scandinavian has some problems but what's a club player to do.
I actually get better results with the tier two 3...Qa5 Scandinavian than I have with the cream of the crops Caro Kann and French and even 1...e5.
I don't touch the Sicilian as black even if it is the best move. Nope. lol
What to expect from someone who feels at liberty to replace "Scandinavian Defense" by "Scandi defensive"?
Nothing good.
I'm sure your mild autism is very discomforted by seeing the shortening of a name you are used to seeing spelled in another way so reliably.
I'm sure your mild autism is very discomforted by seeing the shortening of a name you are used to seeing spelled in another way so reliably.
Look doc, language is a handy convention right? Next time you see a green light while driving your car, think about it. Reliably.
Besides, "defensive" (neologism here) is not any shorter than "defense" (common noun and correct here). I would not have said anything for "Scandi" alone.
And you? Do you find confort in insulting others for no good reason?
@ibrust I must, alas, add you're an hypocrite along a very disrespectfull person toward disabled people. Because so: would you actually believe I'm an autist, you would not dare post what you posted. Dah.
@ibrust I must, alas, add you're an hypocrite along a very disrespectfull person toward disabled people. Because so: would you actually believe I'm an autist, you would not dare post what you posted. Dah.
Hypocrisy is criticizing someone grammar then following up with this. Though I will admit I was mistaken and thought you were criticizing my grammar when infact you were referring to the threads title.
However I called you a mild autist, which isn't disabling... and that's partially an observation, it's not a mere shallow insult. A mild autist can still function, they just get completely bent out of shape when their world changes in tiny ways... imagine a person comes home to find someone has rearranged the ordering of shirts in their drawer and this is very upsetting. Much like you in this conversation, where your entire point is... that shortening a word is highly bothersome and problematic... it isn't.
Chess attracts alot of these types - the game is very consistent, and they like that.
It's good for me to tell you this, even if it's true, since it helps you to be more aware of / learn to correct for it... many mild autists can learn to act like other people, and they're able to live normal, happy lives.
the center counter defense isnt objectively bad it just gives white a couple free tempos and a development advantage in return for some random queen on a5 thats going to have to move again anyways
Thanks for the heads up in that line. Black may can survive but it appears very unpleasant to play. It looks like to fix this black needs to go all the way back to move 6 and play 6...c6 instead of 6...e6 in that line.
The book isn't meant to cover everything, it would have to be a whole lot more pages to do so. It's mainly a practical guide for club players and a good one at it I think.
The Scandinavian has some problems but what's a club player to do.
I actually get better results with the tier two 3...Qa5 Scandinavian than I have with the cream of the crops Caro Kann and French and even 1...e5.
I don't touch the Sicilian as black even if it is the best move. Nope. lol
6...Nbd7 is playable as well.
Maze, I can’t believe what your saying.
Honestly, I don’t think you truly believe your own words.
“Move Order does not matter so much”
Of course, Move Orders matter!
As shocking as it is, the conclusion is that either you don't know what a move order is, or you just have to say something when you have nothing useful to say. And the problem is that you say a lot, 99,5% of them being pure nonsense.
Here are three different move orders, all leading to the same position.
Maze has demonstrated Intellectual Dishonesty.
How can a healthy forum conversation happen if such a situation is happening?
I have repeatedly said moves orders matter!
If moves are changed, it can change what a person does in response!
I wrote an entire post explaining why the moves are played and how if a single black move is changed it can potentially change how white plays.
All the writing and explanation and Maze goes and makes above post?
I can only think of 1 of 2 possibilities.
1) Maze doesn’t actually know what I’m talking about in regards to move orders
or
2) Maze does know and is deliberately ignoring what I have said which would be Intellectual Dishonesty.
Move Orders Matter!
They have always matter to a degree!
The issue is whether or not a person can capitalize on move orders.
Move Order orders matter slightly less to beginners because they don’t know how to punish an opponent if they screw up a move order.
Higher level players can punish bad move orders because they are more skillful in chess.
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Also, I don’t play Nge2 if my opponent plays e5 which is what I said previously.
Usually, White should respond to an early e5 with a Nf3 because as I said before the color complex which is being contested is dark squares.
Usually, White will have to prepare Nf3 with pawn move like d3. Than play Nf3.
At this point you're basically explaining to someone the way chess works on a basic level and they're ignoring you / doubling down. It probably is dishonesty because no one is truly confused by this.
Also, I don’t play Nge2 if my opponent plays e5 which is what I said previously.
Usually, White should respond to an early e5 with a Nf3 because as I said before the color complex which is being contested is dark squares.
Usually, White will have to prepare Nf3 with pawn move like d3. Than play Nf3.
So what? Black will play the same stuff: ...Nf6, ...e5, ...Bd6, ...c6, ...0-0 and enjoy a very comfortable position. White cannot do any harm, as he has handled the opening passively (starting with 4.g3?!).
Actually it is quite good.
Saying the Scandinavian Defense is a good chess opening is like saying Ryan Leaf was a good football player.
Also, I don’t play Nge2 if my opponent plays e5 which is what I said previously.
Usually, White should respond to an early e5 with a Nf3 because as I said before the color complex which is being contested is dark squares.
Usually, White will have to prepare Nf3 with pawn move like d3. Than play Nf3.
So what? Black will play the same stuff: ...Nf6, ...e5, ...Bd6, ...c6, ...0-0 and enjoy a very comfortable position. White cannot do any harm, as he has handled the opening passively (starting with 4.g3?!).
White will have a Small Advantage in the Position your talking about. It isn’t comfortable for Black.
Black hasn’t equalized.
White can aim to press the advantage and slowly build up the advantage systematically.
The other thread caused me to look more deeply into the Scandi and in so doing I lightened up somewhat on my view of blacks prospects. In general black is doing well in practice, and the positions look fun / complicated. Though in certain lines, like that one, I still much prefer white.