Scandinavian defence is a f-king masterpiece

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1Lindamea1

Why? Let me explain

But this is my least favourite part of scandinavian.
The second most popular move, gives you the permission to play the BUFFED french defence ADVANCED variation, the ONLY REASON I PLAY THE FRENCH DEFENCE
Yes, we are down a tempo because we touched the bishop, but this basically is a Euwe variation with an inevitable bishop pin coming, which takes away one defender and makes space for another one attacker.
Next move by popularity is the tennison gambit. It's just losing for white if we know what we are doing, so the variation isn't worth going through
Now, the fan-favourite Blackmar-diemer gambit transposition. We decline it with......NC6!!!
We get the best of nimzowitsch defence without being afraid of having to transpose into open game!
Okay, what about the closed scandi? what if they try to counter-nimzowitsch us? he he he...
if they play d3 it is an obviously playable endgame for black. Any other move is losing for white.
What can we get from declined scandis? Advanced french that has been hitting the gym, 100% reliable full nimzowitsch, more flexible tartakower caro kann, and a lot of good positions if they try the gambits. If you aren't a fan of nimzowitsch defence, you can transpose into french or caro, or just learn the e5 or c5 blackmar diemer gambits. Sidelines are amazing, what about the main line? Idk. It is playable, but I would prefer it never existed. The only reason why scandi is not overpowered is its main line. 

1Lindamea1
TheNameo
fNames написал:

its ok i should probably start playing it theres something about it i dont really like i guess just moving the queen around is annoying i think with white i always think im getting an advantage with a tempo on the queen with bd2 after nc3

Ethan_Brollier
lassus_dinnao wrote:
Sidelines are amazing, what about the main line? Idk. It is playable, but I would prefer it never existed. The only reason why scandi is not overpowered is its main line. 

You understand the irony here, no? Nobody plays Declined Scandinavians because the Accepted is just so ridiculously strong, so they’re essentially non-factors.

chessterd5

the Scandinavian is played at IM level. it must have some redeeming value. a big key to playing it, is understanding that the middle game is much slower than the opening itself.

DrSpudnik

Usually it ends up looking like a train wreck. It's nice to see the underdog get a few nips in.

1Lindamea1
TomekPrzemek16 написал:
Scandinavian defence is a f-king masterpiece

NO, IT'S NOT. QUITE THE CONTRARY, ACTUALLY

masterpiece because of how such an amazing opening is actually trash only because pawns can take diagonally

dfgh123

I drew a fide master with the Scandinavian it's the real deal

1Lindamea1
Ethan_Brollier написал:
lassus_dinnao wrote:
Sidelines are amazing, what about the main line? Idk. It is playable, but I would prefer it never existed. The only reason why scandi is not overpowered is its main line. 

You understand the irony here, no? Nobody plays Declined Scandinavians because the Accepted is just so ridiculously strong, so they’re essentially non-factors.

Yes, that's really fun how if you don't know theory in the french, you get destroyed, in the caro kann you get demolished, in the sicilian you get annihilated, and in the scandi you get a 62% winrate for literally no reason

CaroKannEnjoyer02

Yes! As an (sorta) ex scandi player, Im sick and tired of everyone hating on it!

DrSpudnik

There was a Pribyl variation back then that involved the Queen retreat 3...Qd6. It was considered a joke, but then after some GM study, it is now in the running as one of the top retreats for the Q (aside from a5 and d8).

1Lindamea1
Optimissed написал:

Think I recall this variation is called after a player with a surname beginning with P. In the 70s and 80s it was played infrequently by GMs. I was wondering what you would do if I played a fun variation against you that I just cooked up in my head. Let's see, after White Plays d4 and Black Plays Nf6, then white can play Bishop d3 and probably whatever black does on the next move, Ne2 and then castles and white is supporting Bf4 for hitting the queen and the Q-side. Might be an interesting way for white to get pieces into the game. White should generally be better because black's development is slow and clumsy.

I already wrote about the moves that support Bf4 in my first diagram actually. I don't know what to do about that. It looks like Qd7 O-O-O is still possible, but idk.

Blahblahamsksakka
Optimissed wrote:

Think I recall this variation is called after a player with a surname beginning with P. In the 70s and 80s it was played infrequently by GMs. I was wondering what you would do if I played a fun variation against you that I just cooked up in my head. Let's see, after White Plays d4 and Black Plays Nf6, then white can play Bishop d3 and probably whatever black does on the next move, Ne2 and then castles and white is supporting Bf4 for hitting the queen and the Q-side. Might be an interesting way for white to get pieces into the game. White should generally be better because black's development is slow and clumsy.

I guess you need to try this in an actual game to see if it works

GMegasDoux

The continuation seems better for black and they get to castle. But this is an engine line. Dont know who will ever see it in play. 1. e4 d5 2. exd5 Qxd5 3. Nc3 Qd6 4. d4 Nf6 5. Bd3 Nc6 6. Nge2 Bg4 7. f3 Bh5 8. Bf4 e5 9. dxe5 Nxe5 10. O-O Bg6 11. Bxg6 Qb6+ 12. Nd4 Nxg6 13. Na4 Qa6 14. Re1+ Be7 15. Nf5 Qxa4 16. Bxc7 Qc6 17. Bd6 Nd5 18. Qd4 O-O-O 19. Bxe7 Ndxe7 20. Nxe7+ Nxe7 21. Qxa7 Qd6 22. Rad1 Qxd1 23. Rxd1 Rxd1+ 24. Kf2 Rhd8 25. Qc5+ Nc6 *

gik-tally

piece of steaming doo doo maybe

DrSpudnik
gik-tally wrote:

piece of steaming doo doo maybe

Just a piece?