Scandinavian or Philidor?
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Acetes
Feb 17, 2020
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#1
Hello Chess Friends! I’m trying to decide between the two. Both seem relatively straightforward to understand and implement. Of course I would plan on using the Old Indian with the Philidor and more than likely the Slav with the Scandinavian. If you could give me some advice, I’d greatly appreciate it...thanks!
Feb 18, 2020
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#2
Thanks for the advice. I get the same feeling as well, looking over some games.
Scandinavian Defense is relatively 'easy' to learn compared to other defenses, and is perfectly viable, especially at the amateur level. Several GMs do venture it on occasion, even Magnus Carlsen - here vs Fabiano Caruana in 2014, 3...Qd8 variation....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j13SjlmDUC8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGadAjrsaY0
I recommend the 3...Qd8 variation as the safest/simplest....
Chessable courses on the Scandinavian.....all are on the 3...Qd8 variation.....
https://www.chessable.com/chess-openings/s/scandinavian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fEkJsfbQWM
a brief description of the 3...Qd8 variation....you will first have to be logged in (free) to Chessable to view this page...
https://www.chessable.com/variation/113941/
Scandinavian Defense 3...Qd8 - 'Hanging Pawns' video.....good...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_f7oAbE6q0
more on 3...Qd8 Scandi.....
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=scandinavian+defense+qd8
The 3...Qd8 Scandinavian: Simple and Strong by Daniel Lowinger...
https://www.amazon.com/Qd8-Scandinavian-Simple-Strong/dp/1936490765/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=The+3...Qd8+Scandinavian%3A+Simple+and+Strong&qid=1582095316&s=books&sr=1-1
Feb 19, 2020
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#4
Don't waste time learning the Philidor. You can't use it many times as the opponent would prepare against it. And it's not easy to play with cramped position.
Feb 20, 2020
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#5
Hey, great advice thanks. I’m getting the feeling that the Scandinavian/Slav is the way go.
Feb 20, 2020
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#6
Acetes wrote:
Hey, great advice thanks. I’m getting the feeling that the Scandinavian/Slav is the way go.
Caro Slav would make more sense as they haVe some overlap. But I would avoid the philidork.
Optimissed wrote:
I would recommend the Qa5 variation and definitely not the Qd8 variation.
Why?
Feb 20, 2020
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#8
Optimissed wrote:
I would recommend the Qa5 variation and definitely not the Qd8 variation.
What's your thoughts on Qd6?
Feb 21, 2020
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#9
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Philldor gives you an blocked, non- developed positions.
Everyone says you're supposed to play e5 under 2000 elo, so I would go with philidor if I only had those two choices.
Feb 21, 2020
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#12
Scandi or Philidor?! Neither. Pick French, Sicilian or Caro Kan instead.
Feb 21, 2020
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#13
I believe majority favors the Scandinavian. Now...
A. 2... Nf6
B. 3... Qd6
C. 3... Qd8
D. 3... Qa5
I pick B.
Yeah I recommend Sicilliam or Caro- Kann.
bong711 wrote:
I believe majority favors the Scandinavian. Now...
A. 2... Nf6
B. 3... Qd6
C. 3... Qd8
D. 3... Qa5
I pick B.
Pros and cons to each and I have tried all four. I actually did fairly well with C but it seems so hard to win with against even much weaker opponents. The move d5 by white is worrisome in D. B may well be the best choice among the four but Shirov's f4 is quite annoying to me. In the end I chose 2...Nf6 because it seems to allow more space, which fits in with my playing the Tarrasch Defense against 1 d4, and also because now and then black can get a quicker win on the club level with 2...Nf6, and besides that the book Smerdon's Scandinavian (2...Nf6) is exceptionally good. .
I would choose non because I like the Sicilian more, but if I was forced to, I was choose the Scandinavian. In the Phillidor, there is a trap white could play if you’re not careful. Plus, the Phillidor is passive, and it gives white a lot of space in the center.
Whatever you choose, don't go mad and buy a bunch of books on the openings because at best you'll be reading a small footnote on a sideline.
Fabiano Caruana-Magnus Carlsen, 2014 Chess Olympiad, Scandinavian Defense, 3...Qd8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGadAjrsaY0
Anand-Carlsen, GCT Tata Steel Blitz (2019), Scandinavian Defense, 3...Qd6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvUxJtNF5Ho