Should I play the french advanced


There are major stylistic differences between 3.Nc3, 3.Nd2, 3.e5, and 3.exd5.
Speaking objectively, as the French is one of the openings I play from both sides, 3.Nc3 is theoretically best with 3.e5 a close second, though a tick behind. 3.Nd2 and 3.exd5 are not refuted, but far easier to fully equalize for Black!

There are major stylistic differences between 3.Nc3, 3.Nd2, 3.e5, and 3.exd5.
Speaking objectively, as the French is one of the openings I play from both sides, 3.Nc3 is theoretically best with 3.e5 a close second, though a tick behind. 3.Nd2 and 3.exd5 are not refuted, but far easier to fully equalize for Black!
Technically speaking, black has equalized immediately unless white plays Nc3

algorithmicRecursion wrote:
I used to play the tarrasch against the french and thinking about Nc3 but I realized that the rubinstein is still annoying and the reason I played the tarrasch before was to avoid the winawer. I know that the french advanced has a bad reputation among french players but heard that ideas were found for white in the 2000s. Does this apply for both Qb6 and Bd7 lines? If I should learn the french advanced what materials should I use? Otherwise how to deal with the rubinstein?

There are major stylistic differences between 3.Nc3, 3.Nd2, 3.e5, and 3.exd5.
Speaking objectively, as the French is one of the openings I play from both sides, 3.Nc3 is theoretically best with 3.e5 a close second, though a tick behind. 3.Nd2 and 3.exd5 are not refuted, but far easier to fully equalize for Black!
Technically speaking, black has equalized immediately unless white plays Nc3
The advance went from being a benign equalizer to Black having problems due to many new ideas from White's perspective in 2007,

There are major stylistic differences between 3.Nc3, 3.Nd2, 3.e5, and 3.exd5.
Speaking objectively, as the French is one of the openings I play from both sides, 3.Nc3 is theoretically best with 3.e5 a close second, though a tick behind. 3.Nd2 and 3.exd5 are not refuted, but far easier to fully equalize for Black!
Technically speaking, black has equalized immediately unless white plays Nc3
The advance went from being a benign equalizer to Black having problems due to many new ideas from White's perspective in 2007,
Which problems are those. Black is fine as long as he remembers to develop
Nh6.

I like that Bg2 idea looks very pleasant. Will that work against the fort knox? I feared the rubinstein cause theres so many moves that look similar and idk how best to play for an edge with white given its drawish reputation not that I think its gonna be a draw at my level but if black equalizes and I get confused I might be in trouble. I did check the database and whites scores great after the normal break c5 black did have a weird idea after e5 in that position. I do also want to see the problems thriller fan has found in the advanced variation especially after the giri course on the french in chessable might have something to say about it idrk.

There are major stylistic differences between 3.Nc3, 3.Nd2, 3.e5, and 3.exd5.
Speaking objectively, as the French is one of the openings I play from both sides, 3.Nc3 is theoretically best with 3.e5 a close second, though a tick behind. 3.Nd2 and 3.exd5 are not refuted, but far easier to fully equalize for Black!
Technically speaking, black has equalized immediately unless white plays Nc3
The advance went from being a benign equalizer to Black having problems due to many new ideas from White's perspective in 2007,
Which problems are those. Black is fine as long as he remembers to develop
Nh6.
Mr Winawer, the move 6.Be2 is hot garbage against 5...Qb6. Against the slow 5...Bd7, it is White's best move, but here it is no good because of the immediate pressure on d4.
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qb6 6.a3 Nh6 (or 6...c4 +/=) 7.b4 cxd4 8.cxd4 Nf5 9.Bb2! And now
9...Be7 10.Bd3! with a slight edge for White
9...Bd7 10.g4! and it is highly unclear, though White has the more comfortable game.

I like 3.Bd3 against French it's very interesting and if your opponent doesn't know how exactly to react, they can get in a trouble.
The "if they don't know" approach is hot garbage in chess.
You should never base a line on "if they don't know".
If nobody as White knows the Latvian Gambit, it would score 90% for Black.
Black's, after 3.Bd3, equalizes comfortably with 3...dxe4 and 4...Nf6

ThrillerFan wrote:
There are major stylistic differences between 3.Nc3, 3.Nd2, 3.e5, and 3.exd5.
Speaking objectively, as the French is one of the openings I play from both sides, 3.Nc3 is theoretically best with 3.e5 a close second, though a tick behind. 3.Nd2 and 3.exd5 are not refuted, but far easier to fully equalize for Black!
Technically speaking, black has equalized immediately unless white plays Nc3
The advance went from being a benign equalizer to Black having problems due to many new ideas from White's perspective in 2007,
Which problems are those. Black is fine as long as he remembers to develop
Nh6.
Mr Winawer, the move 6.Be2 is hot garbage against 5...Qb6. Against the slow 5...Bd7, it is White's best move, but here it is no good because of the immediate pressure on d4.
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qb6 6.a3 Nh6 (or 6...c4 +/=) 7.b4 cxd4 8.cxd4 Nf5 9.Bb2! And now
9...Be7 10.Bd3! with a slight edge for White
9...Bd7 10.g4! and it is highly unclear, though White has the more comfortable game.
I would not go nh6 against a3. I would go Nh5, to take control of the b3 square, follow it up with Bd7 later, (maybe to a4 later on) then go Ne7- Nd8-Nb6, castle queen side and attack the white king.

ThrillerFan wrote:
There are major stylistic differences between 3.Nc3, 3.Nd2, 3.e5, and 3.exd5.
Speaking objectively, as the French is one of the openings I play from both sides, 3.Nc3 is theoretically best with 3.e5 a close second, though a tick behind. 3.Nd2 and 3.exd5 are not refuted, but far easier to fully equalize for Black!
Technically speaking, black has equalized immediately unless white plays Nc3
The advance went from being a benign equalizer to Black having problems due to many new ideas from White's perspective in 2007,
Which problems are those. Black is fine as long as he remembers to develop
Nh6.
Mr Winawer, the move 6.Be2 is hot garbage against 5...Qb6. Against the slow 5...Bd7, it is White's best move, but here it is no good because of the immediate pressure on d4.
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qb6 6.a3 Nh6 (or 6...c4 +/=) 7.b4 cxd4 8.cxd4 Nf5 9.Bb2! And now
9...Be7 10.Bd3! with a slight edge for White
9...Bd7 10.g4! and it is highly unclear, though White has the more comfortable game.
I would not go nh6 against a3. I would go Nh5, to take control of the b3 square, follow it up with Bd7 later, (maybe to a4 later on) then go Ne7- Nd8-Nb6, castle queen side and attack the white king.
6...Na5?? is losing after 7.b4! You lose all control of b3.
If you want to control b3, you must stop b4 first via 6...c4, which is the main alternative and leads to a small advantage for White. Uhlmann was a huge advocate of 6...c4. After 7.Nbd2, only then should Black play 7...Na5.

ThrillerFan wrote:
There are major stylistic differences between 3.Nc3, 3.Nd2, 3.e5, and 3.exd5.
Speaking objectively, as the French is one of the openings I play from both sides, 3.Nc3 is theoretically best with 3.e5 a close second, though a tick behind. 3.Nd2 and 3.exd5 are not refuted, but far easier to fully equalize for Black!
Technically speaking, black has equalized immediately unless white plays Nc3
The advance went from being a benign equalizer to Black having problems due to many new ideas from White's perspective in 2007,
Which problems are those. Black is fine as long as he remembers to develop
Nh6.
Mr Winawer, the move 6.Be2 is hot garbage against 5...Qb6. Against the slow 5...Bd7, it is White's best move, but here it is no good because of the immediate pressure on d4.
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qb6 6.a3 Nh6 (or 6...c4 +/=) 7.b4 cxd4 8.cxd4 Nf5 9.Bb2! And now
9...Be7 10.Bd3! with a slight edge for White
9...Bd7 10.g4! and it is highly unclear, though White has the more comfortable game.
I would not go nh6 against a3. I would go Nh5, to take control of the b3 square, follow it up with Bd7 later, (maybe to a4 later on) then go Ne7- Nd8-Nb6, castle queen side and attack the white king.
6...Na5?? is losing after 7.b4! You lose all control of b3.
If you want to control b3, you must stop b4 first via 6...c4, which is the main alternative and leads to a small advantage for White. Uhlmann was a huge advocate of 6...c4. After 7.Nbd2, only then should Black play 7...Na5.
Yes. You are right. I messed up the line.

@Mr_Winawer I just saw your game against GM Johan Sebastian Christiansen during chess24 banter blitz. He played what I believe is called Wing Gambit. That game was a pure massacre, even though it was a bullet game.

@Mr_Winawer I just saw your game against GM Johan Sebastian Christiansen during chess24 banter blitz. He played what I believe is called Wing Gambit. That game was a pure massacre, even though it was a bullet game.
Yes, I messed up completely. First, I was very nervous and surprised that he had chosen me, and forgot that you should not take the pawn. I think the game I played vs Sebastian vs much better.
Of course, I did miss the simple tactic at the end, but we do not speak of that.

I suggest what I like, if you don't like, write whatever you prefer!
That's my rationale for suggesting 2. d3. I like the King's Indian Attack. I also like to derail the bulk of my opponent's preparation right out of the starting gate.
I used to play the tarrasch against the french and thinking about Nc3 but I realized that the rubinstein is still annoying and the reason I played the tarrasch before was to avoid the winawer. I know that the french advanced has a bad reputation among french players but heard that ideas were found for white in the 2000s. Does this apply for both Qb6 and Bd7 lines? If I should learn the french advanced what materials should I use? Otherwise how to deal with the rubinstein?