Sicilian or e5?

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VectorVictor

Ruy Lopez and Sicilian notwithstanding, you don't need to play the Lopez to play ...e5 successfully.  The Petroff has way less to memorize, is way more open and tactical, and is a much better weapon with which to challenge players at the club level, since a gap in theory and knowledge of typical plans will take you a lot further in its more open style than it will in a Lopez slog.  The only downside, if there is one, is that white can force an endgamish position if he opts for early Qe2 lines.  But work on your endgames instead of Lopez/Sicilian theory, and you can rack up points as black in the Petroff in even the dullest lines.

It's what Yusupov recommends for black in the first book of his Build Up Your Chess series.

Kumquatodor

I believe the Sicillian is better, though I use a much simpler version. If the opponent makes a mistake, you get the upper hand. If not, you have another oppening for your offense to go through. I may not be a pro, but I suggest you do a version of the Sicillian you feel comfortable with.

odisea777

you gotta know as many openings as you can, both black and white, because you have to be able to respond adequately to what your opponent does

atarw

Guys, instead of arguing, lets actually help kradon.

The_Gavinator

Sicilian, if you play e5 you get Parhamed.

mateologist

Playing a certain opening will not win games, your skill at understanding the objectives of them and the ability to adapt to whatever defence your opponent throws at you in the context of that opening is what wins chess games. If you are a novice than play "open games" 1.e4..e5  and lean how to maintain or undermine a pawn center, the neccesity of rapid "effective" developement, learn to look for "sound" tactical shots to punish opening move errors that present themselves on our level.Once you have done that you are ready to move on to the ultra-sharp sicilian defences !  Cool

kradon5953

Ok, i would like to say thank you to all who posted, this has really helped, as i do not know many openings with black. I will play sicilian. But here's the next question:

Which variation is the best in sicilian?

I really appreciate the help i am geting from u guys :)

The_Gavinator

I like the Classical, it feels the most natural. The Najdorf is essentially a draw, it's like the Ruy Lopez of the Sicilian. The Dragon is stupid, people think it's good but it's really not, kinda like the Catalan. The Scheveningen is tough to break through, but you don't have many good attacking chances yourself. Those are the 4 main variations I think.

The_Gavinator

Pretty large chances for drawing...

mateologist
kradon5953 wrote:

Ok, i would like to say thank you to all who posted, this has really helped, as i do not know many openings with black. I will play sicilian. But here's the next question:

Which variation is the best in sicilian?

I really appreciate the help i am geting from u guys :)

What variation is best in the sicilian ? How about the smith-morra gambit !

       You wanted to play the nardjolf maybe next time !!   Cool

The_Gavinator

I think he was talking about the best variation for black, the smith-morra is for white

Toadofsky

LOL, everyone knows that 1... d5! is best. Cool

But seriously, it depends how many decades you want to spend studying opening theory.

mateologist
The_Gavinator wrote:

I think he was talking about the best variation for black, the smith-morra is for white

That is why white plays the morra so black never reaches his "best" sicilian variation ! Against a novice the morra is a Killer !!   Smile

Courtney-P

The Smith Morra is very sharp.  I play (as white) 1.d4 d5 (c5) 2. e4  and also use the Smith Morra as a counter to the annoying Scandinavian (which I play as black) 1.e4 d5 2. d4 

mateologist
satxusa wrote:

The Smith Morra is very sharp.  I play (as white) 1.d4 d5 (c5) 2. e4  and also use the Smith Morra as a counter to the annoying Scandinavian (which I play as black) 1.e4 d5 2. d4 

At our level i think it is a "sound" opening but strong opponents really take a lot of the "bite" out of that opening with excellant defences, but the onus of proper defensive play lays with black he has little room for error. Cool 

Anonymous_U

Sicilian all the way because 1...e5 gives white players too much crap to throw at you.  The Scotch Gambit is just devistating.  It's what I use as white against black players (not racist).  Against the 1...c5, I play the open Sicilian...

 

So as Black, Sicilian all the way!

Praxis_Streams

at the OP's level (including my own, so i'm not trying to patronize the OP) I doubt opening statistics will accurately depict how he'll perform with said opening. 

I've read several places that when your elo is low, or you're a beginner, you should always play 1. e4 e5. I kindof wish I did when I started, because at my point I feel a little shaky playing 1... e5 while knowing little opening theory and having 0 experience with it. 

The_Gavinator
uhohspaghettio wrote:
The_Gavinator wrote:

 

Pretty large chances for drawing...

Rubbish. For one, that sort of drawing percentage is low for GM games. 

For two, you're just selectively taking a line that tends to be more drawish than most in the Najdorf. 

No, I actually selected the most popular moves, I didn't do anything to it. And those aren't GM games, I can post a picture from the Master's Database if you'd like to see.

Yereslov
pfren

No fish, and no meat. It's playable, but white has decent compensation after either 4.Bc4 or 4.c3.

I'd rather be white, but this is subjective.