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Sodium Attack (1.Na3)
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Aug 22, 2018
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#24
> If you keep playing blitz and bullet you will never find something bad to say about 1.h4 2.h5 . Reduce blitz and bullet , study chess seriously a little more and it's certain that eventually you will find something bad to say about 1.h4.<
Good lord, you couldn’t be more sanctimonious and patronizing if you tried. Just how is the relevance of 1.h5 & 2.h5 germane to a discussion on 1.Na3? A part from each being first moves, one is not relevant to the other.
Furthermore, it was you and no one else who drew the distinction between nonsense being played in blitz & bullet and that somehow it was supposed to be good.
>You didn't even comment at the fact that the result of the game showed is not even opening related. HIS OPPONENT BLUNDERED. When your opponent blunders it doesn't matter even a tiny bit what opening you play. The game hardly proves that "the opening is not that bad". Actually the game hardly proves even a tiny little thing except the one I said<
Here is where you contradict yourself, your post directly infers that 1.Na3 is nonsense opening played at blitz. Two questions: (1) How do you know the original game was either blitz and bullet and (2) Since when is move 18 considered to be part of the opening?? I suppose people like you would do sending such studying chess seriously but me?....No, that is in to the middle game. But as for the opening I think 9.e4 was premature and 9….Nf6 just looks horrible. Maybe 9.Ndb4 was better. But I am sure someone will disagree. I don’t mind debate but lecturing, misinformed lecturing is another thing.
>My only mistake is that I should add:
"Everything works when your opponent blunders"<
Yes, that is more accurate but you could say that about every opening where one’s opponent blunders at move 18 in the middle game.
>Is that more accurate or I will have to suffer more philosophical nonsense about black and white?<
Suffer or don’t. I really don’t give a shit but If you believe that there is not a philosophical aspect to chess that is up to you. Fine, worship at the altar of dogma. Me, I would prefer to have an open mind and not be like you, wound up so tight that one’s sphincter might explode.
bemonator wrote:
sodium is interesting
I concur! Sodium; an element that is soft, a metal, very reactive with H2O, and I would guess to neutralize such an attack one would use a negatively charged maneuver. Now a K, P or B attacks are quite different I muSt dEclAre'z 
DeirdreSkye wrote:
macer75 wrote:
DeirdreSkye wrote:
Is that more accurate or I will have to suffer more philosophical nonsense about black and white?
Oh right, that reminds me... I remember hearing a lot of that from you.
Yes , and I can't argue with that since you are the absolute expert in all types of nonsense.
Chill, mate. I get that you are the kind of person who likes things nice and ordered, but should any of this really bother you. I mean, it's the internet. There are hundreds of chess threads you can check out. If you don't like this one, why bother commenting?
I´m not saying 1Nc3 is good, but you can´t compare it to 1 h4. After all, with Na3 you are developing a piece (I know, to a not very good square) while h4 weakens unnecesarily you kingside, as pawns can´t retreat in chess. The sodium is more flexible, and you can set you pawn structure according to your opponent reaction
steve-alex wrote:
Maybe deuterium defense (d5) is a reasonable reponse?
From the Black's perspective I think 1....e5 is the best response if only to see how White deals with the threat of Bxa3. Generally the rule of thumb the better player with the Black pieces, the less likely it is such a threat. Bxa3 so early on only weakens the dark squares towards the middle game.
In which case some who try 1.Na3 will play 2.Nc4 in response 1...e5. Usually it is 2....Nc6 is expected but the idea of 1.Na3 e5 2.Nc4?! e4! is quite strong, intending d5 meaning White has to find a square for his knight plus an idea of development to support having to move the Knight yet again.
Oh.....and SteelBalls have you not heard of a VPN, separate networks and dummy accounts??
1. Na3 is a great move, I will play it exclusively the rest of the day. BTW it is actually called the Drunken Knight. Alekhine used to complain about his doctor always nagging him about the drinking, so he compromised with the doctor and cut back on sodium intake. It was during this period that he developed what some call Drunken Knight, and others call Sodium.
Dec 8, 2018
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#35
I think what you want to call 1.Na3 is somewhat moot.
The general rule of thumb is if you play it regularly and publish something on it, you get to name it. For that very reason I prefer Durkin's Attack.
But in saying such, it was believed that Durkin was authoring another book when he died on 1.Na3 which was titled "The Sodium Attack"
Dec 8, 2018
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#36
RonPaulsSteelBalls wrote:
Why are you rude?
Lots of practice dealing with myopic ill informed people.
Dec 8, 2018
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#37
Obviously Na3 is not a very good move in terms of getting a strong position, but it is also a VERY unfamiliar move, which can be worth a lot.
It is interesting opening with lots of transposition possibilities. No obvious weakening. I do wonder , how would white proceed after Na3 e5(with the threat of Bxa3). Maybe play b3?
Dec 8, 2018
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#39
I don't think anyone could argue that Na3 is a very good move in terms of getting a strong position, least of all me.
But I would like to ask a question? 1.Na3 is only 1 move, the first move by White, just how can you conclude just how good or bad a move is if the other side has not moved?
DeirdreSkye wrote:
This is the 10351st thread "I play a nonsense in bullet and it works".
Yes everything works in blitz and bullet , the only ones that don't know that are those who play blitz and bullet.
A GM won another GM that was 200 points higher rated with 1.h4 2.h5!
Does that mean it's good?
Yes, it means it is quite viable if white is well prepared and black is not prepared. Defeating a 2600 GM is not a joke even in blitz. And in this game, white didn't even win on time, black blundered. That means black was completely flustered and confused by the opening and lost his bearings.
With this game, we know that anything can work as a surprise weapon when the side springing the surprise is prepared and the other side is not prepared.
What happens if both sides are well prepared? That is the true test of viability of any opening. We won't know if h4 is a viable opening till some GM starts playing regularly. It is easy to assume that such an opening can't work. But chess history has shown such assumptions to be misplaced. Best example is Sicilian. It was considered a bad opening and was abandoned for several years. But today, Sicilian and English, both are considered most popular and effective openings. So, who knows what people might say about Na3 or even h4 in future.
I think Na3 looks quite fine and playable.
Magnus Carlson has Played 1 na3 and 1 f3 before in blitzi believe.