Sokolsky Opening. Has anyone had success persisting with the lines

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WCPetrosian

After 4...Nc6 Hansen recommends 5 d4.

I see you haven't gotten his book yet. happy.png

darkunorthodox88
aflfooty wrote:

Ah yes. Maybe I only saw it after black knight to c6 and white continued with the knight exchange for bishop and then the black bishop retreat to d6. 

considerng that white should play g3 after or very close after bxf6 i fail to see how bd6 is dangerous even if you add c6 and a queen move.

aflfooty

Lol 😆 

Yes. I was incorrect on that variation 

ZedsDead87

Really good stuff here. QUESTION, can you post some games or maybe explain how you like to develop against when black plays more of a kings Indian setup? For the limited time I played d4 I would play more the fianchetto variation. What pawn structures are you developing against the kings Indian or even grunfeld when they play d5. Thanks!! 

aflfooty

Maybe others can comment on that ZedsDead87.

There are many combinations that are worthy of discussion.

I have been presented one out of the blue for black which seems promising

aflfooty

b6.

1992PseudoPolgar

Great discussion about the Polish Opening, dear Robby!! I never play this opening. With black I play 1...b6. I go off the book and it's a very solid move. I usually look for a scheme similar to the Queen's Indian Defense and I usually look good in the opening.
Thank you so much for your attention.

Here's an example of a bullet I played a few days ago: https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/70684422201?tab=review

 

1992PseudoPolgar

For example:

Thanks for your attention.

TwoMove

If Black likes the KingsIndian there should be no problems playing 1b4 Nf6 2Bb2 g6 . A Nakumara v Jones game went 3BxN pxB 4b5 were black should be objectively ok, but white was probably happy with an orginal position, his opponent hadn't studied.

Instead 3c4 Bg7 then castles, and d6, e5 like normal. Think a similar story black as good as any KingsIndian line, but white happy with orginal position.

[Jones didn't write much more than above, in recent KID book(s)/ chessable course, which should be fairly encouraging for white.]

aflfooty

Thank you TwoMove for your sound comment on a more kings Indian line opening.

aflfooty

Welcome to my Spanish friend Beatriz to our discussions here on the Sokolsky. 
We have many seasoned Sokolsky openers here ( who have read Carsten Hansens works in detail unlike me lol😊😊).

Hopefully someone can comment on b6 by black and it’s strengths and weaknesses.against a standard polish opening theory. 

ZedsDead87

Thank you TwoMove. At my lower level if the board becomes too large if a blank canvas I can become lost. Definitely like B4 a lot more than when I tried b3, b4 I think influences the center better though from the flank.  As far as b6 set up above my basic knowledge tells me to try my best to exchange that on b7 but at my level all drop pieces trying to get it. 

darkunorthodox88
1992PseudoPolgar wrote:

For example:

Thanks for your attention.

its a harmless formation although slightly drawish. Play is almost symmetrical except white plays an early b5 , a4 and c4. objectively equal although the extra space is quite pleasant for white in creating counterplay. 

white can sometimes go for d3 and prepare e4 if he wants to fight to win, if black locks with d5-d4, then white begins activity on kingside, with moves like g3, nh4 and nf5 or f4.

TrumanB

I love Polish opening. I play it a lot on my (low) level and it can take many ways. One of the more aggressive lines is to play f4 after a few starting moves.

TrumanB
UnsidesteppableChess wrote:

FM Carsten Hansen says he has played 1 b4 in blitz games about 350 times (that was as of over a year ago, I assume he has possibly played many more games with 1 b4 by now) against players rated 2200 and above on Chess.com and Lichess. He's scored 70% with it, 3% better than he has with his usual repertoire. (73% score against GMs with 1 b4). 

 

It looks to me that if you are a real expert in this opening you can convert it many times against opponents who are strong but not particularly prepaired.

aflfooty

What is whites BEST move after opening with b4 when black plays the Birmingham opening c5??. 

Erwinmk

Hansen gives as answer against the Birmingham 2. bxc5. See his pages 164-167. Not a lot of game practice, but again, lots of things to fill in yourself.

You definately should get his book!!!

Erwinmk

Dou you all remember some posts ago I would try move 4. c4 in a game with the Exchange Variation?  And if Black would get dangerous with moves along the d-file? Well, I played a game and indeed bungeled up, with a Black Queen getting out to d5. Eventhough I still think any early outings by the black queen should not be a problem; apparantly the were nonetheless mine blitz

Look at the following game. I gave some comments, but if others have any suggestions and their own comments, please add these!

 

Jonathansultimatechess

I love this opening

kingsknighttwitch

Would you all be interested if I made some videos on Sokolsky opening theory?

They would be similar to the ones I've made on the French and Reti where I introduce the theory before jumping into some model games. I can't promise a full series (as there are some lines with very few games or where FM Hansen's novelties have not yet been tried).