Your “London System” is actually just the Queen’s pawn opening with a London system variation. What you put is Queen’s Pawn Opening: London System. The REAL London System is 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Bf4
Starting out in the London System and the Sicilian
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BobbyTalparov wrote:
MMMJACOBSTAR wrote:
Your “London System” is actually just the Queen’s pawn opening with a London system variation. What you put is Queen’s Pawn Opening: London System. The REAL London System is 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Bf4
As the name implies, the London System is a system opening. That means the move order is not the important thing. The idea is to place the knight on f3, bishop to f4, d-pawn to d4, and e-pawn to e3. Black's moves do not matter (other than those that create a direct threat that must be handled), the system is to reach a position with the pieces on the desired squares. A common way it is done is 1. d4, 2. Bf4, 3. Nf3, and 4. e3, but that is not the only way.
It isn’t a different move order, it is actually different moves. Black plays g6, ready to try and close up the rock solid London system. But when you do queen’s pawn game, London system, you try to fight with development.
May 6, 2018
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MMMJACOBSTAR wrote:
BobbyTalparov wrote:
MMMJACOBSTAR wrote:
Your “London System” is actually just the Queen’s pawn opening with a London system variation. What you put is Queen’s Pawn Opening: London System. The REAL London System is 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Bf4
As the name implies, the London System is a system opening. That means the move order is not the important thing. The idea is to place the knight on f3, bishop to f4, d-pawn to d4, and e-pawn to e3. Black's moves do not matter (other than those that create a direct threat that must be handled), the system is to reach a position with the pieces on the desired squares. A common way it is done is 1. d4, 2. Bf4, 3. Nf3, and 4. e3, but that is not the only way.
It isn’t a different move order, it is actually different moves. Black plays g6, ready to try and close up the rock solid London system. But when you do queen’s pawn game, London system, you try to fight with development.
Did a quick google search to confirm, and you're not correct. The london system is defined by whites moves, as he said. Regardless of whether or not black plays g6.
May 6, 2018
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Areliae wrote:
MMMJACOBSTAR wrote:
BobbyTalparov wrote:
MMMJACOBSTAR wrote:
Your “London System” is actually just the Queen’s pawn opening with a London system variation. What you put is Queen’s Pawn Opening: London System. The REAL London System is 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.Bf4
As the name implies, the London System is a system opening. That means the move order is not the important thing. The idea is to place the knight on f3, bishop to f4, d-pawn to d4, and e-pawn to e3. Black's moves do not matter (other than those that create a direct threat that must be handled), the system is to reach a position with the pieces on the desired squares. A common way it is done is 1. d4, 2. Bf4, 3. Nf3, and 4. e3, but that is not the only way.
It isn’t a different move order, it is actually different moves. Black plays g6, ready to try and close up the rock solid London system. But when you do queen’s pawn game, London system, you try to fight with development.
Did a quick google search to confirm, and you're not correct. The london system is defined by whites moves, as he said. Regardless of whether or not black plays g6.
I said that the black moves are different. Look at my first post. There are three London systems: Queen’s Pawn Game: London system, which is the position the writer of this forum set up, London System, which I put, and Indian Game: London system which is 1. d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 e6 3.Bf4
London System - White
What I use for white, nice procession of moves, gets everything out and open!
Development Ideas for White:
1. Bb5 - Pinning the knight to the king, soon destroying blacks queen side castle, allows white to king-side castle.
2. Ne5 - Beautiful outpost square for the night if black doesn't take, if black does take it gives you a nice square for the bishop as well.
3. Nc3 - Similar to a classic four knights position, all around good choice.
Sicilian - Black
This is what I play as my black response to e3, e4, and sometimes even d4. Although it doesn't work greatly against d4, it gets the job done. If playing against d4 make sure to get out the queen-side knight before trading.
Development Ideas for Black:
1. Bg4 - Pinning the white knight on f3, great to trade off as it may destory the king-side castle.
2. Bd7 - Makes trading off the knight easy.
3. Get out the king-side bishop and castle - Perfect development!