IDK, icy and gyg seem pretty high rated and seem to be agreeing with what I'm saying... don't want to pull the rating card but... shrug.jpg
Switching to Sicilian, but which Sicilian?
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@paper_llama
Even if you dislike the Sicilian. His argument makes 0 sense. I will break it down for you.
He said in the most common lines below 1600, black gets mated on move 9 in the Morra and loses a piece on move 7 in the Alapin. I checked the lines and that wasn't true. He cherry picked the lines and said they were the most common when they weren't and then tried to play it off that white is generally more prepared.
It makes 0 sense.
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
He cherry picked the lines and said they were the most common when they weren't
Every line I posted were all the most common moves for black. 
icy wrote:
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
Then you are just saying "Well if white plays perfectly and black doesn't then black just loses" Like yeah go figure.
It's easier for Black to go wrong, that is the point. It is easier for White to play accurate moves naturally, in most Sicilians.
No it isn't because they weren't the most common lines. They were cherry picked.
GYG wrote:
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
He cherry picked the lines and said they were the most common when they weren't
Every line I posted were all the most common moves for black.
But NOT the most common moves for white so you are not being fair.
May 1, 2023
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#247
GYG wrote:
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
He cherry picked the lines and said they were the most common when they weren't
Every line I posted were all the most common moves for black.
That was true of my diagrams too. It took me about five minutes to come up with four ways for White to clobber Black after 1. e4 e5.
It's a bogus procedure and proves nothing other than that better prep beats worse prep. (Though I'll admit it's rather fun to do...)
jesus... not this again
@Ultimate_trashtalker
I gave the most common lines regardless of whether they turned out better for white or black. I didn't skew the results. He did.
May 1, 2023
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#250
But back to the first page... sure, the taimanov and kan seem reasonable enough. Play a few moves then try to get d5 in when possible... that'd be my basic advice to a beginner.
For 1500 players I have no idea... at that rating I just played whatever ridiculous fking thing I wanted... usually before the round (I'm talking OTB) I'd look in a magazine at a few GM games and pick an opening that looked interesting... I didn't start trying to learn proper openings until 1800... not that I was playing trash (I just said I was trying to copy GMs) but as far as worrying about "which opening should I choose" ... I don't think you should worry about it so much. Play what looks interesting and copy GMs.
@tlay80
Jesus, at least someone else sees that what he said makes no sense lol.
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
icy wrote:
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
Then you are just saying "Well if white plays perfectly and black doesn't then black just loses" Like yeah go figure.
It's easier for Black to go wrong, that is the point. It is easier for White to play accurate moves naturally, in most Sicilians.
No it isn't because they weren't the most common lines. They were cherry picked.
I was giving my opinion based on my experience. I didn't even read whatever evidence others gave to support their claim. I don't know or care what line GYG was talking about.
@Ultimate_trashtalker
I'm not even going on about that. The point is he said the most common line of the Morra below 1600 leads to mate in 9 when it doesn't.
@icy
Ok well you kind of just came in the middle of this and all of it was about that. Lol.
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
@icy
Ok well you kind of just came in the middle of this and all of it was about that. Lol.
The issue is that you are concluding that someone else's claim is invalid just because the evidence is unreasonable.
A child could not adequately explain to you why we need oxygen to survive, but he would still be correct.
May 1, 2023
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#256
icy wrote:
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
@icy
Ok well you kind of just came in the middle of this and all of it was about that. Lol.
The issue is that you are concluding that someone else's claim is invalid just because the evidence is unreasonable.
A child could not adequately explain to you why we need oxygen to survive, but he would still be correct.
... but if an alien who knew nothing about earth asked a child, and the child said nonsense, it'd be reasonable to not believe them.
i think if black were to follow common sicilian plans he would be fine
a common setup like this for example should be fine for black
paper_llama wrote:
icy wrote:
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
@icy
Ok well you kind of just came in the middle of this and all of it was about that. Lol.
The issue is that you are concluding that someone else's claim is invalid just because the evidence is unreasonable.
A child could not adequately explain to you why we need oxygen to survive, but he would still be correct.
... but if an alien who knew nothing about earth asked a child, and the child said nonsense, it'd be reasonable to not believe them.
Hahaha correct
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
I'm not even going on about that. The point is he said the most common line of the Morra below 1600 leads to mate in 9 when it doesn't.
I've explained a million times what the point that the lines were illustrating is. At this point you are in denial.
@SamuelAjedrez95 arguing with 4 people who are all more than double his rating reminds me a bit of this 
@paper_llama
I can't be bothered to discuss this with you because you said you dislike the Sicilian with both colours so obviously you are going to say that's it's bad to play, etc. etc.
At least you're honest about it.