Switching to Sicilian, but which Sicilian?

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SamuelAjedrez95
mrOpenRuy wrote:

@samuelajedrez95

where did you learn everything you learned and how?

Hanging Pawns

Andras Toth

Judit Polgar (she has some great videos on the Sicilian)

Naroditsky

I also picked up bits of information from Eric Rosen, Hikaru and Agadmator. Although I would say they are primarily focused on entertainment, it's very instructive.

I also looked at the analysis board quite deeply. When using the analysis board I consider the most common moves in the master's database, the engine analysis and the best scoring moves in the table. I consider all these different moves to think about which offers the best chances or what might be an interesting sideline. You also have to check each move a bit deeper as the score on the surface might change depending on the follow up.

Checking the amateur database is also helpful. I did not consider this as important at first but it is as you can see which lines players are frequently struggling with and why. You can also see common mistakes.

I have made studies on virtually every opening.

tlay80
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
mrOpenRuy wrote:

@samuelajedrez95

where did you learn everything you learned and how?

Hanging Pawns

Andras Toth

Judit Polgar (she has some great videos on the Sicilian)

Naroditsky

I also picked up bits of information from Eric Rosen, Hikaru and Agadmator. Although I would say they are primarily focused on entertainment, it's very instructive.

I also looked at the analysis board quite deeply. When using the analysis board I consider the most common moves in the master's database, the engine analysis and the best scoring moves in the table. I consider all these different moves to think about which offers the best chances or what might be an interesting sideline. You also have to check each move a bit deeper as the score on the surface might change depending on the follow up.

Checking the amateur database is also helpful. I did not consider this as important at first but it is as you can see which lines players are frequently struggling with and why. You can also see common mistakes.

I have made studies on virtually every opening.

If you don't know them, you might like Negi's Grandmaster Repertoire books. Between them, they give a White repertoire for everything but the Ruy and Petroff (which I believe he's currently working on). He likes the sorts of sharp, ambitious lines you seem to (e.g., the 6. Bg5 Najdorf, which gets a whole book). There may be some spots that are starting to get outdated in the earlier volumes (which are coming up on ten years old), but there's still a lot that's relevant.

pleewo

Im not sure Hanging Pawns is an entirely credible source, I’ve looked at some videos and I’ve spotted some mistakes in the analysis, but still a good chess YouTuber!

SamuelAjedrez95

The Schliemann is actually fairly respectable and can be somewhat aggressive.

f5 is much better against the Ruy Lopez than the Italian. The Rousseau gambit is actually terrible as black is pretty much denying themselves castling rights.

In the Ruy Lopez, the bishop isn't looking down this diagonal so black is still able to castle in that position although white still has a line to prevent it.

chsnkl
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:

Completely wrong, Najdorf is perfectly fine at all levels. The opponents won't know all the theory either so it evens out. It's one of the most fun and interesting defences you can play. Theory is never a burden as it's completely worth it.

Even if you make mistakes you can learn from them and it'll help you improve. If you don't start learning at some point, then you never will. That's exactly what this type of person wants. They want you to never learn it and just play what they tell you to.

I'm just saying that it's up to your play style at the end of the day. All openings are equally good from a practical perspective. But it depends on the player's preferences in the end.

If someone cannot stand destroying their position for the sake of an attack, than maybe the Najdrof isn't their best shot. You don't know anything about how painful it becomes to learn theory at a higher level.

pleewo

Fair enough ngl

mrOpenRuy
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:

The Schliemann is actually fairly respectable and can be somewhat aggressive.

f5 is much better against the Ruy Lopez than the Italian. The Rousseau gambit is actually terrible as black is pretty much denying themselves castling rights.

In the Ruy Lopez, the bishop isn't looking down this diagonal so black is still able to castle in that position although white still has a line to prevent it.

ive had luck with the Nc3 variation

SamuelAjedrez95
Optimissed wrote:

I take it then that you've been a stronger player in the past and it's advancing age which has caused the time management problems.

No, I am kind of young I suppose. I have some health issues and circumstances which may make focusing and processing things quickly more difficult.

pleewo

The Schliemann was given in The Beginners 1.e4 e5 repertoire by Andras Toth.

SamuelAjedrez95

@FrogboyWarpz

Yes, I discussed this with Ratko.

In some of the Hanging Pawns videos he gives an incorrect line or lesser sideline as the main line. It's always important to check multiple sources.

RatkoGavrilo1
mrOpenRuy wrote:

andas gives great advice on chess, if you want to get better learn the open sicilian and ruy lopez as white, classical nimzo and main line kid. ENJOY what you do, practice tons and tons on everything

while you got gothamchess who is over here recommending THE LONDON or some very passive openings, or he will give near refutable ¨traps¨ for black and white that if they dont work you just lose the game

i mean look at the traxler, whites winning by force

look at his ponziani-steinitz gamibit recommendation, its literally near refutable

look at f5 agianst the italian, near refutable

f5 agianst the ruy, black ends up very passive and white gets initiative

there are plenty others but im not mentioning them

I haven't watched Levy since the Alphazero saga so my opinion can be biased on the subject or dead wrong but "Win in 7 moves" is just an approach for more money because it does attract people like flies. Obviously he is in it for money and he gets that so resoect the man for his work.

But unfortunately you start seeing nonsensical ine trick pony lines, such as Traxler and Englund for example. Beginners mind is already warped especially if some people fell for the same tricks. Or they play stuff like Caro and London, again, in a bad habitual way, while nothing truly is wrong with said openings, they play it like a system. Memorisation over understanding would be a somewhat correct analogy here.

I kinda get where higher people are coming from. Imagine getting hit by a variation that you don't know in Sicillian on an OTB game with stakes high, that could turn nasty real quick. But why is it such an issue in casual games? I see none especially if you can take a loss. A grandmaster lost more than we ever played in our lives. Its the essence of the game.

Op just try it and see if you like it. You already heard the doomsday preacher and supporter arguments here.

pleewo

Exactly! But it’s usually fine 👍. 
I like to look at Chessable courses when it comes to openings, i also play and analyse a lot, along with master games!

RatkoGavrilo1

Man Schleimann Ruy is incredible. You guys suggested me that one to play it and never a dull day since.

pleewo

GothamChess only really recommends refutable openings on YouTube just so he can get views, but the GothamChess 1.e4 repertoire on Chessable is legitimate.

against c5, he recommends a hyper modern 2.Nc3, often playing d4 afterwards.

against c6, he recommends the fantasy, not that bad actually and there are a lot of fun lines.

against e5, he recommends either the Ponziani or a weird c3-d4 Italian. Again, he actually makes it quite legitimate.

against e6, he gives the Milner berry gambit. Legitimate opening.

pleewo
RatkoGavrilo1 wrote:

Man Schleimann Ruy is incredible. You guys suggested me that one to play it and never a dull day since.

It’s indeed very powerful!

mrOpenRuy

what do you guys do agianst Nc3 though? blacks position is tough and he really has to know what hes doing, white has tricks on blacks weakend diagonal and easily picks off blacks center

SamuelAjedrez95

@FrogboyWarpz

It's a marketing strategy. Keep everyone at a lower rating by teaching them bad openings so they will keep paying for his courses. 😂

mrOpenRuy
FrogboyWarpz wrote:

GothamChess only really recommends refutable openings on YouTube just so he can get views, but the GothamChess 1.e4 repertoire on Chessable is legitimate.

against c5, he recommends a hyper modern 2.Nc3, often playing d4 afterwards.

against c6, he recommends the fantasy, not that bad actually and there are a lot of fun lines.

against e5, he recommends either the Ponziani or a weird c3-d4 Italian. Again, he actually makes it quite legitimate.

against e6, he gives the Milner berry gambit. Legitimate opening.

gothams chessable recommendations are inferior to the main lines, the main lines are main lines for a reason, the ones he gives just grant black equality or gives black edge

pleewo
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:

@FrogboyWarpz

It's a marketing strategy. Keep everyone at a lower rating by teaching them bad openings so they will keep paying for his courses. 😂

FR

RatkoGavrilo1
mrOpenRuy wrote:

what do you guys do agianst Nc3 though? blacks position is tough and he really has to know what hes doing, white has tricks on blacks weakend diagonal and easily picks off blacks center

Not sure if I can go much into detail on that line since it was avoided both in Caruanas book and also Modernized Ruy, where d3 was suggested to white, so I haven't experienced much study on it. But the general idea of fxe4 and then Nf6 is strongest response from black afaik. And if Qe2, d5 is a nice counterplay.

It serves just fine for me so far. I use a bigger gun (Marshall) for bigger bulls.