Switching to Sicilian, but which Sicilian?

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pleewo
mrOpenRuy wrote:
FrogboyWarpz wrote:

GothamChess only really recommends refutable openings on YouTube just so he can get views, but the GothamChess 1.e4 repertoire on Chessable is legitimate.

against c5, he recommends a hyper modern 2.Nc3, often playing d4 afterwards.

against c6, he recommends the fantasy, not that bad actually and there are a lot of fun lines.

against e5, he recommends either the Ponziani or a weird c3-d4 Italian. Again, he actually makes it quite legitimate.

against e6, he gives the Milner berry gambit. Legitimate opening.

gothams chessable recommendations are inferior to the main lines, the main lines are main lines for a reason, the ones he gives just grant black equality or gives black edge

They also grant pleasant to play positions actually! The hypermodern 2.Nc3 is actually in my repertoire, although my opponent is usually prepped for it and plays d6, Bh6 and both sides get practical chances. But actually legitimate!

The lines he give in the fantasy also seem very practical and there are some fun gambits he offers that look super fun to play!

His recommendation with the ponziani is a little iffy but he also gives the reverse philidor vs d5 which is actually legitimate as well. I didn’t really look at the Guccio Piano but he recommends e4, e5, nf3, nc6, bc4, bc5, c3, Nf6, d4, Ed, cd, bb4, Nbd2. I think it would catch a lot of people off guard because the only options I knew white had before I saw this were Bd2 and Nc3. 
I also didn’t look at the Milner berry chapter very much but the Milner berry is actually a very legitimate opening! And don’t say it gives black equality because Andras Toth actually recommends it as well! He even gives it in his Beginners 1.e4 repertoire on Chessable! We get fun attacking positions and he says that even if the position is 0.00, we get strong practical, attacking chances!

pleewo
RatkoGavrilo1 wrote:
mrOpenRuy wrote:

what do you guys do agianst Nc3 though? blacks position is tough and he really has to know what hes doing, white has tricks on blacks weakend diagonal and easily picks off blacks center

Not sure if I can go much into detail on that line since it was avoided both in Caruanas book and also Modernized Ruy, where d3 was suggested to white, so I haven't experienced much study on it. But the general idea of fxe4 and then Nf6 is strongest response from black afaik. And if Qe2, d5 is a nice counterplay.

It serves just fine for me so far. I use a bigger gun (Marshall) for bigger bulls.

Marshall is awesome! 😎

SamuelAjedrez95
tlay80 wrote:

If you don't know them, you might like Negi's Grandmaster Repertoire books. Between them, they give a White repertoire for everything but the Ruy and Petroff (which I believe he's currently working on). He likes the sorts of sharp, ambitious lines you seem to (e.g., the 6. Bg5 Najdorf, which gets a whole book). There may be some spots that are starting to get outdated in the earlier volumes (which are coming up on ten years old), but there's still a lot that's relevant.

Thanks! I'll look into them

pleewo

Negi is awesome!

pleewo

May I also recommend Gajweski’s 1.e4 on Chessable! It may be too theory heavy but he always goes into main lines with the Ruy and Open Sicilian, I don’t have the course but I have heard good things about it and that the author explains the ideas well! Same with Garwain Jones’s Kings Indian course!

SamuelAjedrez95

It's important to consider that 2 cases where the engine gives 0.0 can be completely different from the human perspective.

Some are absolutely drawn positions.

Some are slow, equal, grinding positions.

Some are absolutely chaotic positions where either side can get killed at any moment.

Like with the Fischer-Sozin Attack, 0.0 doesn't equal a draw.

pleewo

Exactly!

pleewo
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:

It's important to consider that 2 cases where the engine gives 0.0 can be completely different from the human perspective.

Some are absolutely drawn positions.

Some are slow, equal, grinding positions.

Some are absolutely chaotic positions where either side can get killed at any moment.

Like with the Fischer-Sozin Attack, 0.0 doesn't equal a draw.

And even if it’s 0.00 out of the opening, that doesn’t mean it’s a draw at all! A game of chess is yet to be played, a legendary clash of minds! Psychological warfare on the board and in real life!

mrOpenRuy

compared to the london system where it really is a draw out of the opening...

pleewo

Of course not! The London isn’t a bad opening, it’s actually totally fine! I’ve never got why you usually put your pawn on c3 instead of c4, but it’s still a fine opening!

I think most london players would play 5.Nbd2 and against qb6, play some dxc5 lines. Not all London system players play on autopilot! If you actually learn the opening, it’s not so bad. Even if there are better options imo

mrOpenRuy

not all but most

the ones that dont play 3.Nc3

pleewo

The only thing I really have against the london are that people play it on autopilot and beginners don’t learn the importance of actively fighting for the center. And also it’s not a beauty like Sveshnikov, Evans Gambit or Kings Indian. But I don’t see anything wrong with experienced club level players adding it to their repertoire! I think it’s completely fine. Although die hard london players are a little weird, wouldn’t want to touch those guys..

pleewo
mrOpenRuy wrote:

not all but most

the ones that dont play 3.Nc3

Sure, but club level players that actually learn the london would.

mrOpenRuy

honestly white feels natural to me when playing the london is to play like this:

pleewo

Exchange QGD: London Variation

SamuelAjedrez95
Optimissed wrote:

OK sorry to hear that. Wish you well.

Thank you 👍

mrOpenRuy

exactally, to make some lame ¨pyramid structure¨ isint in the nature or real chess players

Chuck639
mrOpenRuy wrote:

exactally, to make some lame ¨pyramid structure¨ isint in the nature or real chess players

Isn’t the semi-Slav a pyramid pawn structure?

chsnkl
Chuck639 wrote:
mrOpenRuy wrote:

exactally, to make some lame ¨pyramid structure¨ isint in the nature or real chess players

Isn’t the semi-Slav a pyramid pawn structure?

Comparing the Semi-Slav to the London is like comparing apples to oranges. Although they are both fruits, they differ in appearance and taste.

The_Chicken_Wing

o'kelly is easiest to learn