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improveinchess1

hi chess.com cumminity,

a lot of amateurs who play 1.e4 suffer against the french. It is very solid and white cannot obtain any great advantage, positions are mostly very static.

That's why i suggest 2.d3!?

Most french player dont like it. It is a very deep opening with a few ideas and a lot of tactical motives.

i suggest you to read my article on this opening on https://improveinchess.wordpress.com/2017/09/05/how-to-learn-openings-2-kings-indian-attack/

my137thaccount

If you like KIA you can also play 1.Nf3 2.g3

improveinchess1
my137thaccount wrote:

If you like KIA you can also play 1.Nf3 2.g3

of course, but there will be different systems with B on f5 or g4. maybe pawn on c6. 

I think kia is the most effective against the french

Laskersnephew

2.d3 is a pretty well-known move and has been played at one time or another by almost every great player. But is never been the main weapon for any great player--because it isn't as good as 2.d4. The way to take someone out of their "comfort zone" is usually to make a slightly inferior move

ExecuteOrder_66

Reti-Gambit: 1. e4 e6 2. b3 d5 3. Bb2

Laskersnephew

BTW: I'm an occasional French player, and if White would promise to play 2.d3 I'd play it more often 

ExecuteOrder_66

Haters gonna hate.

improveinchess1
DeirdreSkye wrote:

One game only is what you give against French defense? Have you any idea how many set ups Black has at his disposal? They will easily get you out of your comfort zone.

Your article is a joke.

With how many set-ups should i deal in an article which is a introduction?

Honestly, i score quite well with 2.d3 (>60%), so i think I might know some things about it.

I dont hate the french, it is a mainline defense, but i like to play such positions with white.

improveinchess1

2.d3 is played by some very strong players. Amin Bassem for example. It is good for sure.

Laskersnephew

Lots of strong players have met the French with 2.d3. Fischer and Kasparov would be two of them! But almost every great player has played it on occasion.  For club players it's a way to avoid theory, for grandmasters it's a change of pace. Nothing wrong with it

ThrillerFan
improveinchess1 wrote:

hi chess.com cumminity,

 

a lot of amateurs who play 1.e4 suffer against the french. It is very solid and white cannot obtain any great advantage, positions are mostly very static.

That's why i suggest 2.d3!?

Most french player dont like it. It is a very deep opening with a few ideas and a lot of tactical motives.

i suggest you to read my article on this opening on https://improveinchess.wordpress.com/2017/09/05/how-to-learn-openings-2-kings-indian-attack/

 

How laughable!  I have played the French numerous times!

 

3.exd5?  Bring it on!

3.Nd2?  Bring it on!

2.d3?  Bring it on!

 

You want to beat a French player?

 

3.e5! or 3.Nc3!! - White's strongest response!  I have lost one French game OTB in the last 4 months.  It entailed 3.Nc3!

Laskersnephew

Of course 2.d3 in the right hands . . .

 

improveinchess1

i really don't know why people here are thinking that the king's indian attack is harmless. It is true that there is not a big advantage for white, but it is an opening which is hard to deal with-for both sides.

https://youtu.be/8p8WFeDs0go

improveinchess1

i know that it is a complicated opening and very likely to get positional, but in your variation for example white doesnt have to play g3, why not play a reversed philidor 2 tempi up?

ThrillerFan

Because you don't end up in a philidor 2 tempi up as with no g3 Black would not trade on e4 and push e5.  Personally I play c5 before Nc6 but you cannot assume the same 5th thru 7th moves by Black if you do a different 5th move as white.

 

But anyway, the equalizer for Black is 1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Nd2 Nf6 4.Ngf3 c5 5.g3 Nc6 6.Bg2 Be7 7.O-O O-O 8.Re1 b5 9.e5 Nd7 10.Nf1 a5 11.h4 Ba6 12.N1h2 b4 and now 13 Bf4 a4 or 13.Ng4 can be answered by 13...a4 or 13...Nd4, the former still being the main line.  I don't recall which sideline it is in at this very moment but there is one where black can play 13...Qe8, which I believe is from Lau - Uhlmann, where he forced the queen trade with h6 and a couple of moves later f5 and won.

 

Any opening is a problem to someone that does not know it.  However, 3.Nc3 is a problem to a French player that knows it, the KIA is not, and neither are passive lines with d3, Nd2, Ngf3, and Be2.

improveinchess1

if you play Nc6 instead of c5 white can play Be2-c3 and black cannot put his bishop on c5, furthermore black will be forced to play e5 at some point, otherwise white will do.

honestly i have never heared that the king's indian is a passive defense, neither is the king's indian attack.  it is true that black has the choice to allow more dynamic positions or positional, but both are completly fine for white.

my137thaccount
improveinchess1 wrote:

if you play Nc6 instead of c5 white can play Be2-c3 and black cannot put his bishop on c5, furthermore black will be forced to play e5 at some point, otherwise white will do.

honestly i have never heared that the king's indian is a passive defense, neither is the king's indian attack.  it is true that black has the choice to allow more dynamic positions or positional, but both are completly fine for white.

The other poster did not say the KIA was passive, but that the Reversed Philidor was

improveinchess1
ThrillerFan wrote:

Because you don't end up in a philidor 2 tempi up as with no g3 Black would not trade on e4 and push e5.  Personally I play c5 before Nc6 but you cannot assume the same 5th thru 7th moves by Black if you do a different 5th move as white.

 

But anyway, the equalizer for Black is 1.e4 e6 2.d3 d5 3.Nd2 Nf6 4.Ngf3 c5 5.g3 Nc6 6.Bg2 Be7 7.O-O O-O 8.Re1 b5 9.e5 Nd7 10.Nf1 a5 11.h4 Ba6 12.N1h2 b4 and now 13 Bf4 a4 or 13.Ng4 can be answered by 13...a4 or 13...Nd4, the former still being the main line.  I don't recall which sideline it is in at this very moment but there is one where black can play 13...Qe8, which I believe is from Lau - Uhlmann, where he forced the queen trade with h6 and a couple of moves later f5 and won.

 

Any opening is a problem to someone that does not know it.  However, 3.Nc3 is a problem to a French player that knows it, the KIA is not, and neither are passive lines with d3, Nd2, Ngf3, and Be2.

is 12.h5 instead of N1h2 working?

didnt check with database, but looks more flexible

improveinchess1

in all your lines you choose bad ideas for white, i am not surprised that you think, that black is better.

look imto the megadatabase and check Amin Bassem, Nevedichny's and other's ideas

Laskersnephew

I generally play the line for black given in #18, and I always get a reasonably good position. But the game doesn't end there! There is plenty of scope for each player to try and outplay the other. Which is why too much emphasis on trying to find  the best opening line is foolish.