The change to 1.d4, should a 1550 do it ?

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Lawkeito

I already know I'll be a 1.d4 player, because I feel really unconfortable playing against the french, caro-kann and the sicilian. I never won a french game in my life ( there's no good place to put the pieces!!) and in the sicilian it feels like I'm black (god, black always take the initiative)

 

But my tactic level isn't high yet, and people say e4 is better than d4 to train tactics.

Should I make the change to 1.d4 now ?

or stick with 1.e4 until I get stronger ?

tigerbaitlsu
It doesn't matter if u play e4 or d4 or any move at this level you will have tactics. Just play using opening principles and work on your middle game and endgame prowess. It nice to know basic opening like queens gambit accepted and declined, along with common themes of these positions. I'm somewhere around your level so I know that you could sac 2 pawns and still win if you are superior in tactics. It's true that tactics flow from a better position, and if you are consistently getting worse positions don't be afraid to switch up what you are doing. ( Though I doubt your problems are truly happening in the opening, even if you think they are ;) )
Lawkeito
tigerbaitlsu escreveu:
It doesn't matter if u play e4 or d4 or any move at this level you will have tactics. Just play using opening principles and work on your middle game and endgame prowess. It nice to know basic opening like queens gambit accepted and declined, along with common themes of these positions. I'm somewhere around your level so I know that you could sac 2 pawns and still win if you are superior in tactics. It's true that tactics flow from a better position, and if you are consistently getting worse positions don't be afraid to switch up what you are doing. ( Though I doubt your problems are truly happening in the opening, even if you think they are ;) )

I think that's the point, in the french and in the sicilian you can't just follow the opening principles, black has too many compensation for you to escape with general moves.
The great example is the king bishop. In the sicilian and in the french he is a spectator (unless you play the fischer sozin attack, but that loses 2 precious tempo) and can't go anywhere good. C4: don't, b5: don't, the only place is e2 where it's too passive.

This increasing dificulty in finding good place for pieces in unbalanced openings is what makes me stop playing e4. In the d4 opening all your pieces have an active place to go and activity is the main thing to guide us in our level.

tigerbaitlsu
Against the sicilian, what makes you think you can't play Be2 and castle kingside? The approach is simple and turns the Sicilian from a crazy attacking theory battle into a normal middle game. You are too focused on theory and "top" move when you most likely can't even convert or understand the crazy positions that arrive out of the mainlines.
toiyabe

Stick with 1.e4, be a man.  Crushing Sicilian players is one of the funnest things in chess happy.png  

toiyabe
Lawkeito wrote:
tigerbaitlsu escreveu:
It doesn't matter if u play e4 or d4 or any move at this level you will have tactics. Just play using opening principles and work on your middle game and endgame prowess. It nice to know basic opening like queens gambit accepted and declined, along with common themes of these positions. I'm somewhere around your level so I know that you could sac 2 pawns and still win if you are superior in tactics. It's true that tactics flow from a better position, and if you are consistently getting worse positions don't be afraid to switch up what you are doing. ( Though I doubt your problems are truly happening in the opening, even if you think they are ;) )

I think that's the point, in the french and in the sicilian you can't just follow the opening principles, black has too many compensation for you to escape with general moves.
The great example is the king bishop. In the sicilian and in the french he is a spectator (unless you play the fischer sozin attack, but that loses 2 precious tempo) and can't go anywhere good. C4: don't, b5: don't, the only place is e2 where it's too passive.

This increasing dificulty in finding good place for pieces in unbalanced openings is what makes me stop playing e4. In the d4 opening all your pieces have an active place to go and activity is the main thing to guide us in our level.

 

Wrong on multiple points here....unfortunately I don't have time to write an informative response, I will later.  

Lawkeito
tigerbaitlsu escreveu:
Against the sicilian, what makes you think you can't play Be2 and castle kingside? The approach is simple and turns the Sicilian from a crazy attacking theory battle into a normal middle game. You are too focused on theory and "top" move when you most likely can't even convert or understand the crazy positions that arrive out of the mainlines.

I understand, but in the sicilian with Be2 white loses the initiative fast because black plays d5 easily. It just play the other knight to support d5 and white position goes down.

I actually don't study much theory and I'm not worried about top moves.

I just wanted to play an opening that allowed me to develop pieces and fight for a win as white. when I play d4 (rarely because I wanted to develop tactics) is so easy to develop the knights, both bishops and the rooks. there are good place to put the pieces.

But look at the french. whote sufocates with no space at all.

 

Pulpofeira

Just try it and you'll see.

Lawkeito
Fixing_A_Hole escreveu:

Stick with 1.e4, be a man.  Crushing Sicilian players is one of the funnest things in chess   

I won against the sicilian a few times, it's a really good feeling. In a local town tournament Igot second place because I won a sicilian with the english attack, but that was a one time thing. My score against it is something like 4 wins/2 draws/15 losses

But by far my big problem with 1.e4 is the french and caro-kann. I never won a single game in the french, with 2 draws and 13 to 15 losses

Matheus-Henrique

 You need to try. There's no problem changing openings, I played 1. d4 since when I started playing chess and this year I changed to 1. c4 to try new positions,  the hardest part of the game is in the middle game and finals.

You need to train tactics, this is more important than the opening we choose, of course you'll need to see some games with 1. d4, but I'm sure this won't be a problem.

Lawkeito

thank you very much for the elaborated response, Bobby. A lot of insights right there. 

I always play Cc3 in the french, maybe I'm just playing the wrong variation for my level.

I'm working on my tactics but it's a very slow progress and in the new club here in the city I started to face 1700s and 1800s and and I was consistently getting worse positions out of the opening against them, Thats why I put some attention into it.

Lawkeito
HenriqueM escreveu:

 You need to try. There's no problem changing openings, I played 1. d4 since when I started playing chess and this year I changed to 1. c4 to try new positions,  the hardest part of the game is in the middle game and finals.

You need to train tactics, this is more important than the opening we choose, of course you'll need to see some games with 1. d4, but I'm sure this won't be a problem.

Seems like a great advice, I've heard it in various forms.

So, I guess tactics is the way for go, detailed repertoire later.

ndb2010

I started playing the london in school tournaments (I am 7). It has worked well. Other kids are not well prepared for it. 

IMKeto
Lawkeito wrote:

I already know I'll be a 1.d4 player, because I feel really unconfortable playing against the french, caro-kann and the sicilian. I never won a french game in my life ( there's no good place to put the pieces!!) and in the sicilian it feels like I'm black (god, black always take the initiative)

 

But my tactic level isn't high yet, and people say e4 is better than d4 to train tactics.

Should I make the change to 1.d4 now ?

or stick with 1.e4 until I get stronger ?

Play what youre comfortable playing, and i would also suggest getting used to other openings too.  

I never won a french game in my life ( there's no good place to put the pieces!!) 

Of course there is, you just dont understand the opening.  

and in the sicilian it feels like I'm black (god, black always take the initiative)

Same as above.  ou and or your opponent do not understand the opening. 

General chess practice states that beginner should start with 1.e4 as thi is supposed to lead to more open games, which in turn helps you work in tactics.  Im sure there is some thruth to this (to some extent), but does it make sense to solely study 1.e4, and ignore 1.d4?  Does studying half of chess make sense? 

Lawkeito

I'll definitely look into danny series of videos. thank for the tips, guys, you really helped

SIowMove
Lawkeito wrote:

I already know I'll be a 1.d4 player, because I feel really unconfortable playing against the french, caro-kann and the sicilian. I never won a french game in my life ( there's no good place to put the pieces!!) and in the sicilian it feels like I'm black (god, black always take the initiative)

 

But my tactic level isn't high yet, and people say e4 is better than d4 to train tactics.

Should I make the change to 1.d4 now ?

or stick with 1.e4 until I get stronger ?

Switch, if that's what you'd like to do. I've changed my opening repertoire dozens of times throughout the years—and I'll probably continue to change it for years to come.

There's no rule that says you can't change. If anything, I find trying out new things helps your chess the most; exposing you to new structures and ideas. Variety is the spice of life.

CheesyPuns
Fixing_A_Hole wrote:

Stick with 1.e4, be a man.  Crushing Sicilian players is one of the funnest things in chess   

crushing someone who doesn't know any sicillian theory but plays the bg5 najdorf anyways is the funnest thing in chess (not pointed towards you but just taking advantage of your commentwink.png )

generickplayer

If I am right, 1.d4 usually leads to closed positions. However, Black has some ways to get relatively open positions out of it e.g the Tarrasch Defence.

However, closed doesn't necessarily mean quiet - for example, take the King's Indian Defence. In the mainline, White closes up the center, and proceeds to try and destroy Black on the queenside while Black tries to annihilate White on the kingside.

Against the French/Caro-Kann, I play the King's Indian Attack - d3, Nd2, Nf3, g3, Bg2, and O-O. In the KIA, you usually go for a ...e5 pawn push (but only when you can sufficiently protect the pawn there), then try to go for a kingside attack. Additionally, you can also try to free up the king fianchetto's diagonal to try make your LSB very strong.

Lawkeito

A lot of tips, I'll try out some options.

kclemens

I was rated around 1550 in early 2014 when I entered a tournament in which I just wasn't getting anything interesting out of the opening. It was all my fault, because my opening play with e4 was comically horrible, but I just wasn't happy with my positions. I think one of the world champion said that even if you like an opening, you should drop it if you have bad results with it. I simply wasn't enjoying my games, so I switched to d4 halfway through the tournament.

Three years later, I'm a confirmed d4 player and it was one of the best decisions of my career, even thought I had to learn all the theory from scratch. I say give it a try- it's a lot easier to make that switch at 1550 than at 2000 or above.  If you hate it, then just go back to d4. The positions I get now are much more consistent with my "personality" and preferences, so it worked for me... good luck!