Why so many people tossing around new names for the Fred?
Playing an even worse move than standard Fred theory on move two doesn't make it some other opening altogether. It just makes it an even worse Fred.
The f5 Opening
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Fairy_Princess wrote:
Why so many people tossing around new names for the Fred?
Playing an even worse move than standard Fred theory on move two doesn't make it some other opening altogether. It just makes it an even worse Fred.
My opening is not the Fred, The Fred/Phred has different lines. It's like saying that the French is the same as Najdorf or something
Any masters or grandmasters want to play as black with this openig and tell us what they think...
Bavarian Attack
Holzsteiner Partie
Castle Defense
Of course this opening is just losing, but presumably the lesser evil if you wanted to play it in very fast time controls would be 2...Nf6 and 3...d5, where black may only be a pawn down for nothing against routine play. A couple of 2300s have even tried to play this way in opens, though with deservedly bad results.
Let's play
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I win a lot in bullet with this...
Anyone want to try this OTB?
OTB? No. In a live blitz game? If I'm feeling adventurous that day :)
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i dont think this thread will ever die
I asked Hikaru if he would use this as black in blitz or bullet... Let's see what he says...
Yup, I should publish this ;)
yep
I presume you mean 9...Nf6 because everything else auto loses to Qg8+ and h8=Q, but I still don't see your point. As long as White avoids 9. d4?? Bb4+ he is just up a lot of material and has threats.
I see. Black must play h5 as a counter-move instead
TheGreatOogieBoogie I've actually won with this opening plenty of times