White to move and lose? 1. Bf5 Bxf5 2. Qf2 Rxg2 3. Qxg2 Qe1#. Is there anything worse?
More importantly why didn't White devolpe his knights, and why did he lose the right to castle? Nobody cares about low level blitz games.
The f5 Opening
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Yereslov wrote:
NimzoRoy wrote:
It was a joke. Anyways, I'm not rated 1300+. I'm rated much higher.
How are you rated higher than 1300+?
Show me how white gets out of this mess. White to move...
@ Jion_Wansu Nope, not worth the effort. But I am sure if you show us how he got into that mess someone can show you how to avoid getting into that mess. I think it involves moving the knights.
pfren wrote:
Because knights are not allowed to move in troll chess.
LOL
blasterdragon wrote:
Is black hoping to lose?
Yereslov wrote:
blasterdragon wrote:
Is black hoping to lose?
i was just posting the ops line in a diagram for people who don't want to look it up
Malachi1971 wrote:
My chess teacher used to play 1.e4 f5 2.exf5 Kf7! (sarcasm) in blitz games sometimes. He called it the "Porkchop." The games would usually go 3.Qh5+ g6 4.fxg6+ Kg7 5.gxh7 Rxh7 6.Qg5+ Kh8 or something like that. Obviously black does not have compensation for two pawns, but it's the kind of position black has chances in, and it was certainly easy for him to outplay weaker opponents.
I don't see how anyone would have difficulty playing against such an opening.
Once both player reach the middle game, black is toast.
All white has to do is bring his pieces into the enemy campside.
uhohspaghettio wrote:
Ah, GM Yereslov is back to assist us all on the finer points of the 1. ...f5 opening.
We were lost without you. (Oddly enough he's right this time.)
I think he underestimates Black's blitz chances against a weaker opponent in the "Porkchop" though.
uhohspaghettio wrote:
Ah, GM Yereslov is back to assist us all on the finer points of the 1. ...f5 opening.
We were lost without you. (Oddly enough he's right this time.)
Were we talking about this line? Even someone starting out chess knows this is bad. It doesn't take a GM.
If you were to try this out in any serious tournament, you would be crushed.
Yereslov wrote:
uhohspaghettio wrote:
Ah, GM Yereslov is back to assist us all on the finer points of the 1. ...f5 opening.
We were lost without you. (Oddly enough he's right this time.)
Were we talking about this line? Even someone starting out chess knows this is bad. It doesn't take a GM.
If you were to try this out in any serious tournament, you would be crushed.
No one but the OP ever claimed that you wouldn't. However in blitz, I'd believe stuff like this (and the Tumbleweed, which seems to be a tempo-up "Porkchop") could be tricky to play against.
Mainline_Novelty wrote:
uhohspaghettio wrote:
Ah, GM Yereslov is back to assist us all on the finer points of the 1. ...f5 opening.
We were lost without you. (Oddly enough he's right this time.)
I think he underestimates Black's blitz chances against a weaker opponent in the "Porkchop" though.
Yes, I admit. There seems to be no obvious way to win. Even Fritz and Rybka 4 which tends to be very good in these types of positions have trouble finding a refutation.
So far this is what has been established:
All white has to do is survive the game. If he can do that, he will be a piece up.
uhohspaghettio wrote:
Yereslov wrote:
All white has to do is survive the game. If he can do that, he will be a piece up.
Thank you GM Yereslov, for these deeply meaningful and inspiring words of profound insight and enlightenment which greatly enrich the chess lives of us all. But truly, we mere mortals can but attempt to grasp the very surface of bounty, wonders and wisdom located therein.
I never claimed to be a GM. Don't get all high and mighty just because of your rating. On the chessboard that means crap.
kco wrote:
And your point is?
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