The Fantasy Variation

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WanderingPuppet

positions are not easy to play or equalize.  plus you can find lots of fun ideas.  here's some quick AN I did.  and yes i've seen shankland videos but white has other ideas too [and better ones than playing the B to c4], playing against d6, bolstering d4 and developing the bishop to e2 to free the f3 knight.

 


there's a lot of room for creative potential too, obviously. e.g. playing nh3 to cover f2 and induce black to give up his light squared bishop thus freeing up white's light squares... many possibilities and undiscovered ones too.  objectively 3...e6 is probably the most solid but ....de and qb6 and e5 probably yield the best practical results b/c black gets some play if white is more clueless.

MartinJaeggi
jurassicmark hat geschrieben:
pfren wrote:
Yohan_Saboba wrote:

By the way, one of the correct move choices for Black after 3... dxe4 4. fxe4 e5 5. Nf3 is likely 5... Be6. 

There is another move: 5.  Bg4 (see Gallagher - Brunner in 2000 of 2001) In this line black has more active conterplay than with Be6, beaucse with Bh5 the attack against f7 did not work. In the line with Be6 black has to defend e5 for every price and a long time.
PowerfulSmoke
FirebrandX wrote:

Pfren wasn't insulting anybody. It's funny how people take great offense to when somebody explains how patently wrong their presentation was. He's trying to help you and clue you in. Instead of arguing from a pride-hurt standpoint, you should take to heart that he knows what he's talking about. Do a little research and post sequences that are not based on blunders, and you'll get less criticism over it.

Anyway, I play the same line as GM Shankland does, and found the game to be quite enjoyable for black. It often comes as a shock to the players I face in blitz, where they soon realize the hope for black not knowing what to do is dashed, and they are left not knowing what to do themselves. I can always tell that moment in blitz because there is this pause as white is scratching his head and thinking "Darn... What do I do now?"

BTW, it doesn't matter if you're not a diamond member. All you do is pay a sub for a month and that is easily fixed. Then you can watch all the vids the site has to offer.

Technicaly, he is NOT insulting anyone. He is sharing his opinion! No need to get offended!

Yohan_Saboba

Man, smoke, thanks for reviving an outdated, 11-month-dead forum thread!

lolurspammed

Fantasy is the best..

FischerBischer

Idk bout that 

no matter what your level is, you have no right to patronise a weaker player. It’s not as if you were born an IM.

Smositional_Player

It's a good weapon for blitz. Most people don't follow up dxe4 with e5 and get into trouble.

Chavoux

What would be the advantages/disadvantages of fantasy compared to the Scotch or Scatch gambit? They look very similar to me with an early e4 and d4.

Compadre_J
Chavoux wrote:

What would be the advantages/disadvantages of fantasy compared to the Scotch or Scatch gambit? They look very similar to me with an early e4 and d4.

LOL

One of the disadvantages is you wake up with Hang Over!