The fishing pole scandinavian

Sort:
Avatar of blobby12

My opponent trys to use a fishing pole variation,like in a ruy lopez on me.Please comment on the gam

e with improvements for both sides,this was a 15minute game.
Avatar of Wou_Rem

14...Bh4? And  don't like 12.Nxg4 and 13.Nxf6. White already is piece up. No reason to expose your king to danger like that.

After 14...Bh2 black has atleast a draw.

I think that blacks 12th move should be prevented. 12.Ne2  Qd3 seem like good moves. Qd3 I like better because black can't play Ne3 then.

Avatar of xiko92

10... Bd6 11. Nxg4 (other loses a piece) Rh1+! (Nxg4 is at least draw by perpetual check) 12. Kxh1 Qh5+  13. Kg1 Nxg4 and the party just begins!

Avatar of JG27Pyth
Wouter_Remmerswaal wrote:

After 14...Bh2 black has atleast a draw.



I'm not so sure about that... 

Avatar of billwall

I played one game similar to this variation, if its called the fishing pole.  The fishing pole variation of the Ruy Lopez is advocated by Brian Wall (no relation unless we are paired together).  Anyway, my opponent took the bait.

Avatar of blobby12

Everybody I checked using stockfish chess engine and it says I am winning after the bishop sacrifice,but Nh2 was the wrong move and that made it a draw,but after black messed up again it said I was winning.After hxg4 the computer said after Ng5 I was winning.

Avatar of Wou_Rem
JG27Pyth wrote:
Wouter_Remmerswaal wrote:

After 14...Bh2 black has atleast a draw.



I'm not so sure about that... 

 


Rg8, draw. You missed a critical bishop move for black.
Not any bishop move is answerd by those king moves.

Avatar of blobby12
Wouter_Remmerswaal wrote:
JG27Pyth wrote:
Wouter_Remmerswaal wrote:

After 14...Bh2 black has atleast a draw.



I'm not so sure about that... 

 


Rg8, draw. You missed a critical bishop move for black.
Not any bishop move is answerd by those king moves.

 


Not to fight but you're wrong.THe computer says after16.Rh8 I have Rd1 and I am winning,because I can escape on f1 in many lines.

Avatar of JG27Pyth

Blobby "-- Not to fight but you're wrong.THe computer says after16.Rh8 I have Rd1 and I am winning,because I can escape on f1 in many lines." 

He's not _that_ wrong. He's right that I missed Bg1 in my analysis. Yes -- the rook needs to vacate f1 to let the king flee in a few of these draw-preventing lines. In practical play Bh2+ would be a dangerous move. Do you really see the clear escape or do you take a draw? Me, I probably try to flee... miss a move like Bg1, and get whacked! 

Avatar of Wou_Rem
JG27Pyth wrote:

 

Blobby "-- Not to fight but you're wrong.THe computer says after16.Rh8 I have Rd1 and I am winning,because I can escape on f1 in many lines." 

He's not _that_ wrong. He's right that I missed Bg1 in my analysis. Yes -- the rook needs to vacate f1 to let the king flee in a few of these draw-preventing lines. In practical play Bh2+ would be a dangerous move. Do you really see the clear escape or do you take a draw? Me, I probably try to flee... miss a move like Bg1, and get whacked! 


Ah yes you are right.
Only if white does not play Rd1 black has a kill move.

Indeed, I didn't even check Rd1.