The Fred A Good Openning?

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Is The Fred A Good Openning?

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Um. No. 

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Give up the Derpy Gambit, it even makes the Latvian look good by comparison. 

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Yes

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The Fred, I don't know it please illuminate me with a graphic if you can :)

Was it named like that in honor of someone called Fred?

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The Fred Defence is 1. e4 f5, an attempt at a reversed King's Gambit, but it doesn't work because Black doesn't have a pawn on e5 and isn't likely to get one there anytime soon. Actually I think Clyde Nakamura has played this in Blitz against fairly high level compeition and done well with the idea of sacrificing 2 or 3 pawns... like f5, e6, Bd6, Bxd7 etc... a 2 pawn sac to get strong Bishops similar to the Danish Gambit. The preferred name is the Duras Gambit named after... someone named Duras (you can Google it.) As far as I know, the other name "Fred" is not based on the name of a person, but rather the "name" of Black's f-pawn. There's some chess pedagogy which goes about naming the f-pawn "Freddie" ("foolish Freddie" if he steps forward at the wrong time) and making it a special pawn (in an attempt to teach kids *not* to play like this.)

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whatbecause wrote:

Yes

I looked at the opening, it may be good for a bullet game (which you seem to be a master in) but with classical time control It's hard to believe you will trick your opponent with such a thing

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http://www.chesskids.me.uk/level2/cl5l1.htm

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What is this?

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How can you possibly criticise The Fred?

Its relative the Sicilian Attack is also good:



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sorta

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Almost any opening is perfectly playable at below-Master level.

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Casual_Joe wrote:

Almost any opening is perfectly playable at below-Master level.



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RedMatter360 wrote:
Casual_Joe wrote:

Almost any opening is perfectly playable at below-Master level.

 



Key word : almost!

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Casual_Joe wrote:

Almost any opening is perfectly playable at below-Master level.

Most things are playable at master level too

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What do you do after receiving a check when Queen goes to h5?

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only move I see is to block with the pawn.  This wastes a move for white... queen retreats, fxe, possibly (probably?) Qxe.  Now white has a queen in the middle of the board, and that is a double edged sword ... might end up playing scandanavianish as white??

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jonnin wrote:

only move I see is to block with the pawn.  This wastes a move for white... queen retreats, fxe, possibly (probably?) Qxe.  Now white has a queen in the middle of the board, and that is a double edged sword ... might end up playing scandanavianish as white??

yeah, but as exemplified on the DefinitelyNotGM post you have the pawn to take the blocking pawn

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http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Chess_Opening_Theory/1._e4/1...f5