The Bowdler 1.e4 c5 2.Bc4 ! >:(
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Jun 7, 2021
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#22
Anyone who says it isn’t bad doesn’t realize that it’s all zeroes on move three. It also allows the Sicilian dream of an early d5. New player used to the Italian have no clue that playing for the f7 square or some kind of scholars is pointless. I can’t count how many times I’ve trapped the white LSB because they doggedly pursued the only mate they know.
Jun 7, 2021
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#24
Well, sometimes they play Nf3 before Bc4. If you play a6 and e6, black actually has a slight advantage with just pawn moves.
Jun 8, 2021
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#25
melvinbluestone wrote:
Wow! This guy Bowdler_Douchebag wins a lot of games!
And the issue isn't even the opening phase of the game.
Jun 8, 2021
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#26
I've run into the Bowdler once. I think my opponent was rated a couple hundred points below me, we both made blunders, and I won but it was an exciting game. I researched the opening and found nothing to be afraid of, but I review it once in awhile. Regarding the London, you play what works. If my opponent gets so bored that he blunders a piece, that works for me. I would expect someone to master the London from both sides before moving on to openings like the Ruy Lopez, Catalan, or Gruenfeld.
Jun 8, 2021
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#28
Daniel Naroditsky faced the Bowdler many times in his speed run. At the 12:30 mark I. This video he shows how to punish it. https://youtu.be/QJ3YfBMrVls
Jun 8, 2021
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#29
2 things wrong with this post:
1. Openings are not deciding the game.
2. If move 2 is throwing you? Thats on you not the opponent.
Jun 8, 2021
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#30
melvinbluestone wrote:
Am I the only one who sees a flaw in the OP's argument? If you criticize an opening because it's bad, but keep losing to it, shouldn't the criticism be of your play, not the opening? Sure, 2.Bc4 is a bad idea theoretically, but if a player keeps losing to it, then it's a pretty good move against that player.
Anyway, you have to admire Bowdler_Douchebag's humility for choosing such a self deprecating screen name.
You Fool!!!
Dont know in online chess its always opening theory that decides games...even on move 2. And no one loses. The opponent cheated.
Jun 8, 2021
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#31
IMBacon wrote:
melvinbluestone wrote:
Am I the only one who sees a flaw in the OP's argument? If you criticize an opening because it's bad, but keep losing to it, shouldn't the criticism be of your play, not the opening? Sure, 2.Bc4 is a bad idea theoretically, but if a player keeps losing to it, then it's a pretty good move against that player.
Anyway, you have to admire Bowdler_Douchebag's humility for choosing such a self deprecating screen name.
You Fool!!!
Dont know in online chess its always opening theory that decides games...even on move 2. And no one loses. The opponent cheated.
ummm is this really @IMBacon?
Jun 8, 2021
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#32
ninjaswat wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
melvinbluestone wrote:
Am I the only one who sees a flaw in the OP's argument? If you criticize an opening because it's bad, but keep losing to it, shouldn't the criticism be of your play, not the opening? Sure, 2.Bc4 is a bad idea theoretically, but if a player keeps losing to it, then it's a pretty good move against that player.
Anyway, you have to admire Bowdler_Douchebag's humility for choosing such a self deprecating screen name.
You Fool!!!
Dont know in online chess its always opening theory that decides games...even on move 2. And no one loses. The opponent cheated.
ummm is this really @IMBacon?
Who else would be so bold as to speak the truth?
Jun 8, 2021
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#33
IMBacon wrote:
ninjaswat wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
melvinbluestone wrote:
Am I the only one who sees a flaw in the OP's argument? If you criticize an opening because it's bad, but keep losing to it, shouldn't the criticism be of your play, not the opening? Sure, 2.Bc4 is a bad idea theoretically, but if a player keeps losing to it, then it's a pretty good move against that player.
Anyway, you have to admire Bowdler_Douchebag's humility for choosing such a self deprecating screen name.
You Fool!!!
Dont know in online chess its always opening theory that decides games...even on move 2. And no one loses. The opponent cheated.
ummm is this really @IMBacon?
Who else would be so bold as to speak the truth?
I mean this is just different than your previous posts, a little shocking to me.
Jun 8, 2021
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#34
ninjaswat wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
ninjaswat wrote:
IMBacon wrote:
melvinbluestone wrote:
Am I the only one who sees a flaw in the OP's argument? If you criticize an opening because it's bad, but keep losing to it, shouldn't the criticism be of your play, not the opening? Sure, 2.Bc4 is a bad idea theoretically, but if a player keeps losing to it, then it's a pretty good move against that player.
Anyway, you have to admire Bowdler_Douchebag's humility for choosing such a self deprecating screen name.
You Fool!!!
Dont know in online chess its always opening theory that decides games...even on move 2. And no one loses. The opponent cheated.
ummm is this really @IMBacon?
Who else would be so bold as to speak the truth?
I mean this is just different than your previous posts, a little shocking to me.
Melvin and I go wayyyyyy back.
Jun 8, 2021
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#35
I agree with you man, but the bowdler just sucks, the best thing you can do is crush them and make them not play it again
melvinbluestone wrote:
Am I the only one who sees a flaw in the OP's argument? If you criticize an opening because it's bad, but keep losing to it, shouldn't the criticism be of your play, not the opening? Sure, 2.Bc4 is a bad idea theoretically, but if a player keeps losing to it, then it's a pretty good move against that player.
Anyway, you have to admire Bowdler_Douchebag's humility for choosing such a self deprecating screen name.
Its actually a family name. And I think the OP might agree with you in their original post, white only wins because they are better tactically and have a deeper understanding of the position.
Jun 8, 2021
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#37
Actually, a little opening prep would help a lot. If you prep a6 and e6, and then either go for the d5 or b5 push depending on the situation, you shut white down, don’t need to calculate anything, and it’s you on the attack.
It’s never a bad thing to memorize how to punish common dubious openings.
It’s never a bad thing to memorize how to punish common dubious openings.
Jun 8, 2021
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#38
I mean I do the same thing against the Bowdler than against the closed Sicilian, just e6 and potentially Nf6 and then d5, with a6 and b5 to come as well... just as the above person suggested.
Jun 8, 2021
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#39
I play e6 to stop any ng5 stuff and play nc6 and I'm very happy after bc4
@NikkiLikeChikki I don't know if that was at me or not, but I don't think it can be crushed that easily. If black gets too cheeky, they might be the one who overextends. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of Bc4 by any means, but white isn't about to get swept off the board either. Black should develop sensibly, try to make the bishop on c4 look silly, and just play a roughly even game where the better player is more likely to win.
It just happened AGAIN! A PERFECT EXAMPLE of what I'm talking about:
Even when I go the distance, it just feels like a waste of time. Even though I was patient and outmaneuvered my opponent, I lost on time because of all the pointless maneuvering >:-(