I think the most un-Sicilian way to deal with the Sicilian is to go into the KIA set up, but only after playing 1 e4. It is sneaky in that you only show you're anti-Sicilian bias on move 3. I got crushed in it with even realizing I was playing against a KIA.
The most "non-Silician" 2. move after 1. e4 c5
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BetaStrategy wrote:
I love it when people who haven't got a clue what they're talking about "correct" you, and tell you what are and aren't "facts," and "actually true."
It isn't my fault you don't understand transposition properly.
... snip ...It is NOT me who is saying that it is Caro-Kann Advance variation. I am just refering to standard opening theory. The Caro-Kann Advance variation is a well known variation in the Caro-Kann opening.
Apart from that I have already agreed that most openings can transpose into other openings.
The KIA is a pretty solid way to meet the semi-open defenses. But if you're going to play 1.e4 you have to make your peace with the sicilian at some point (and the french too for that matter) and the open sicilian is still better for white than black. One standard setup you can adopt is an english attack formation with Bc4-b3. Then just try to own d5 and roll the king-side pawns. Plus there's a lot of fun piece sacs in the open sicilian like Nd5, Bxe6, Nxb5, etc.
Oct 30, 2011
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Really I doubt that he founded the 2nd worst fast food francise ever, I mean he was a chess player
Oct 30, 2011
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no Burger King is... atleast in my humble opinion, I think the best are (tied) Chickfilet and Arbys
jetfighter13, in your post white loses. observe:
Oct 31, 2011
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good point, its more like Burger centi pawn (the unit computers use to evaluate postions)
jetfighter13 wrote:
after 1. e4 c5 I sugest to leave most theory with the move in the diagram
White loses the queen when Black answers with 5...Bg4+
After the first four moves in your diagram:
(1. e4 c5 2. Ke2 Nc6 3. f4 d6 4. Kf3 Nf6)
White should reply with 5. h3 to prevent 5...Bg4+
Dec 18, 2011
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Eric1980 wrote:
jetfighter13 wrote:
after 1. e4 c5 I sugest to leave most theory with the move in the diagram
White loses the queen when Black answers with 5...Bg4+
After the first four moves in your diagram:
(1. e4 c5 2. Ke2 Nc6 3. f4 d6 4. Kf3 Nf6)
White should reply with 5. h3 to prevent 5...Bg4+
I noticed that, and its all about getting the King to the Other side
I'm with those who think that after 1.e4c5 going for a KIA with White could be most surprising for Black. Also, this then often transposes into favorable KIA vs. French lines where the Black player shouldn't feel very comfortable (for if he would be into the French, he most probably would have gone for 1...e6 in the first place).
It is in fact Caro-Kann (but most openings can evolve into other openings).
Caro-Kann mainline starts this way: 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5, then white can continue with the advance variation by playing 3. e5. Black has different continuations here of which 3... Bf5 is very common and 3... c5 is another option. And right there we have the moves you posted: 1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3. e5 c5. So that is indeed Caro-Kann.
By the way, one of the differences between Caro-Kann and French is that the bishop on c8 can get out to f5 or g4 because the e-pawn is still standing at home.
Caro-Kann Defence: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caro-Kann_Defence
I love it when people who haven't got a clue what they're talking about "correct" you, and tell you what are and aren't "facts," and "actually true."
It isn't my fault you don't understand transposition properly.
The position described can be reached via the French, via the CK, via the Scandinavian, and now it seems, via the Sicilian. It hasn't got typical features of any of them, precisely because white's moves are terrible, so there's no reason for it to exist in the body of theory. But the specific moves that were played to get to the position don't make it any more a Caro-Kann than they make it a Sicilian. All it is is a junk opening by white, where (if you need to name the opening by pawn structure) you get a typical French advance pawn structure, but with the bishop already outside the chain.
I get it. I understand that you don't comprehend that just because a game starts out with certain moves doesn't necessarily mean it falls entirely under that game's umbrella of theory.
But please refrain from "correcting" your betters.