The Parham Gambit

  • #101

    gambiteer, I'm not entirely sure where this is going, but I'd like to give Nf4 a shot.

  • #102

    I'm not convinced 9.c3 or 10.d4 are the best moves for white.

  • #103

    joey, that gives back the gambit pawn, although I'll agree black looks better, this was just a creative try, I think the mainline Parham might be better.

  • #104

    True, the Parham Gambit was just a thought, it can cause problems for black if he tries to hold on for the pawn, although I agree black is better in your board.

  • #105

    See, the thing is I'm reasonable, I can agree that after move 3 above, black is better.

  • #106

    here is a line by stockfish where white is crushed



  • #107
    sanan22 wrote:

    here is a line by stockfish where white is crushed

     



    This line shows how bad the Parham really is.

  • #108

    This is the Parham Gambit, we have already stated this isn't the best, and the engine didn't even accept the gambit. Are you sure white was played by the engine? It hung a rook pretty quickly. CHCL, you are one of the biggest trolls on here, I have repeatedly seen you insult this opening, and not once give a line against it.

  • #109
    The_Gavinator wrote:

    This is the Parham Gambit, we have already stated this isn't the best, and the engine didn't even accept the gambit. Are you sure white was played by the engine? It hung a rook pretty quickly. CHCL, you are one of the biggest trolls on here, I have repeatedly seen you insult this opening, and not once give a line against it.

    both colors were played by engine. no blunders, all best play

  • #110

    Idk, some moves look questionable, it seems that white set himself up for the skewer.

  • #111
    The_Gavinator wrote:

    This is the Parham Gambit, we have already stated this isn't the best, and the engine didn't even accept the gambit. Are you sure white was played by the engine? It hung a rook pretty quickly. CHCL, you are one of the biggest trolls on here, I have repeatedly seen you insult this opening, and not once give a line against it.

    1. He didn't accept the gambit because it is worse for Black
    2. The Parham gambit is unsound
    3. The main line Parham is not good for White only because of his misplaced development, structural weaknesses, and the loss of tempo
    4. I am not a troll
    5. I am using my Fritz 13 to make an opening book on all the Parham lines and then I will post it all here
  • #112
    The_Gavinator wrote:

    Idk, some moves look questionable, it seems that white set himself up for the skewer.

    white prefered losing the exchange and a rock instead of the queen or the game

  • #113
    Conzipe wrote:

    Incredible how much attention this line has gotten here on chess.com!
    It's just a line which mixes things up a little and produces a game with equalish chances for both sides. It's not fantastic but not horrible either.

    This line is quite interesting though, if you haven't discussed it already:

     


    PxP, PxP, Qh5+!

  • #114
  • #115

    Interesting line indeed- I guess ony a dumb guy will go 5.ef5? when Black is much better after 5...Nd4.

    5.Ne2 must be played, when Black is rather fine after 5...Nf6, but this line is "inferior" as it does not seem to grant Black something more than equality.

  • #116

    Ok...I think I see it now...

  • #117

    Quite right, although 6.Qg3 does not deserve a question mark (put it on the previous move), and 6...Qf6 (which is the move I saw) looks great, as well. I don't know which of the two is better, both look very appetizing.

  • #118

    Thanks IM pfren. I didn't think of 6...Qf6, although I think that is very strong too.

  • #119

    I've fed this to mr.Houdini, and he thinks that your Qe7 is a bit better than my Qf6- but it gives a rather significant advantage to Black after both these moves. So- congratulations! you have a better eye than me.

  • #120

    LOLOLOLOL

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