The Queenside Fried Liver

  • #201

    You are too scared to admit it. Plus you failed to adress my next question, at what move?

  • #202

    why does white do 5. e4, and nacht, i have refuted everyone of your lines.

  • #203
    whatupyodog wrote:

    Shepi explain to me the bad structure, lack of space and development. You are garbage and your input is worthless, you just say this without naming moves or stating why. Also, dr spudnick, there is no reason to bash this opening without reason and this openig was just invented by the_gavinator and I, that is why everyone doesnt play it.

    It might help your chess to learn what such concepts are instead of bashing others who make you feel ignorant. Space, defined crudely, is roughly the number of squares controlled by your pieces. Development is generally defined by the position of one's pieces--one's pieces are developed when they have left their home on the first or eighth rank. A piece is well developed when it controls several squares, preferrably at the center of the board.

  • #204
    whatupyodog wrote:

    Shepi explain to me the bad structure, lack of space and development. You are garbage and your input is worthless, you just say this without naming moves or stating why. Also, dr spudnick, there is no reason to bash this opening without reason and this openig was just invented by the_gavinator and I, that is why everyone doesnt play it.

    Bad structure - doubled pawns fixed in place, weak pawn on d3 that Nachtwulf has shown how to attack.

    Lack of space - pawn on d3 takes away lines, you can't easily gain files or space to put your pieces on.

    Lack of development - your pieces are tied to the defense of the d3 and b2 pawns, and black is going to slowly develop an initiative.

    When people name moves you say those moves will never be played and shouldn't be shown. So I instead tell you the problems with whites position, but you aren't good enough to understand what these normal chess terms mean.

    Also, my input is garbage, lol. Engines and players alike agree with me.

     

    After Nxd3 cxd3 black is .2 ahead - which is only slightly better. However, as white you are playing for an advantage, not to be slightly worse.

     

    Lol - After bxb4+ c3 dxc3 simply wins a pawn. you shut up.

  • #205
    whatupyodog wrote:

    why does white do 5. e4, and nacht, i have refuted everyone of your lines.

    White plays e4 to temporarily block the bishop and allow his own to place a check with Bxb4+, winning material.

  • #206

    This thread has jumped the shark.

    and the shark has a laser beam!

  • #207

    center control, also what would you play there

    @ what up

  • #208
  • #209

    Oh and the bishop gets a nice spot at b3 so it makes sence to give up a pawn for that

  • #210

    I believe that some lines might be playable, but not these giberish lines that whatsupyodog came up with.

  • #211

    Yeah, but anyone who has a semi open mind, would look at my line, then that would be appreciated

  • #212

    Jetfighter - I don't believe black has compensation for the pawns, but black is better than white is in most of the regular lines of this opening. It's kind of like a danish gambit: not that great but quite interesting.

  • #213

    Jetfighter i would either do a4 or just nc3 to be better deveopled. Also, shepi all of the lines said so far are playable, and jetfighter, sorry if i insulted you, i did not mean to.

  • #214

    two things, Nc3 has already been played, and a4 does nothing to develop, you are deffinately have no clue what you are talking about

  • #215

    a4 wasnt done to develop, it was to do a5 or b5 if something prevented a5 that allowed b5. Sorry i ment Nf3, and i would like an apology accepted.

  • #216

    These are all of the lines I have discussed thus far. Black has achieved equality or better in each:



  • #217

    Nacht, honestly, what are are you trying to prove with that, you did not put in one of my refutation lines which i had for every variation in that in which white clearly came out better in every one.

  • #218

    yes he did, every move you input, he countered, keep track of your own comments, you truly have no clue what you are talking about

  • #219
    whatupyodog wrote:

    Nacht, honestly, what are are you trying to prove with that, you did not put in one of my refutation lines which i had for every variation in that in which white clearly came out better in every one.

    People are posting comments faster than I can read them! Just post a line for me, and I'll show you what I would do as black to get the edge in the opening.

  • #220

    I meant Nge2 - but it still looks bad for white. after Qa6 Nc1

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