The Queenside Fried Liver

NachtWulf
whatupyodog wrote:

why does white do 5. e4, and nacht, i have refuted everyone of your lines.

White plays e4 to temporarily block the bishop and allow his own to place a check with Bxb4+, winning material.

DrSpudnik

This thread has jumped the shark.

and the shark has a laser beam!

Ben_Dubuque

center control, also what would you play there

@ what up

shepi13
Ben_Dubuque

Oh and the bishop gets a nice spot at b3 so it makes sence to give up a pawn for that

shepi13

I believe that some lines might be playable, but not these giberish lines that whatsupyodog came up with.

Ben_Dubuque

Yeah, but anyone who has a semi open mind, would look at my line, then that would be appreciated

shepi13

Jetfighter - I don't believe black has compensation for the pawns, but black is better than white is in most of the regular lines of this opening. It's kind of like a danish gambit: not that great but quite interesting.

whatupyodog

Jetfighter i would either do a4 or just nc3 to be better deveopled. Also, shepi all of the lines said so far are playable, and jetfighter, sorry if i insulted you, i did not mean to.

Ben_Dubuque

two things, Nc3 has already been played, and a4 does nothing to develop, you are deffinately have no clue what you are talking about

whatupyodog

a4 wasnt done to develop, it was to do a5 or b5 if something prevented a5 that allowed b5. Sorry i ment Nf3, and i would like an apology accepted.

NachtWulf

These are all of the lines I have discussed thus far. Black has achieved equality or better in each:



whatupyodog

Nacht, honestly, what are are you trying to prove with that, you did not put in one of my refutation lines which i had for every variation in that in which white clearly came out better in every one.

Ben_Dubuque

yes he did, every move you input, he countered, keep track of your own comments, you truly have no clue what you are talking about

NachtWulf
whatupyodog wrote:

Nacht, honestly, what are are you trying to prove with that, you did not put in one of my refutation lines which i had for every variation in that in which white clearly came out better in every one.

People are posting comments faster than I can read them! Just post a line for me, and I'll show you what I would do as black to get the edge in the opening.

shepi13

I meant Nge2 - but it still looks bad for white. after Qa6 Nc1

Ben_Dubuque

sorry there, Natch, are there any improvements in my line

shepi13

On d4 d5 Nc3 Nf6 Bf4 c5 b4 cxd4 Qxd4 Nc6 Qd2 e5 Bg5 d4 Ne4 then Nxe4 wins a piece Nachtwulf.

mateologist

NachtWulf that is why experienced players never chose that patzers opening , That is the first attack novices learn when playing d4 with the white pieces there is nothing new here !  Cool 

NachtWulf

An even easier way to settle this would be a chess game. Feel free to challenge me with the qsfl, and I'll handle the black pieces. Laughing