Gavinator's line gives white no "winning attack", unless I'm missing something.
The Queenside Fried Liver

I have started another thread with the finalized lines. I don't want troll problems on there, as there was here, so please only post serious, intellegent comments.

I will be, like in my first comments, also don't exclude lines because they are bad, like you asked us not to do., anyway, see you in that thread with a cooler name, and kindly
Well this post has kinda gone to the dogs.
I looked at the opening. I don't study chess a lot but decided to give that a try.
After 8 moves my opionent resigned. He would have been down a pawn, rook and a bishop after 10 moves. Not able to escape. He made some blunders of course. But this opening is deadly if you are not paying attention. IMHO.
Peace brothers.

Well this post has kinda gone to the dogs.
I looked at the opening. I don't study chess a lot but decided to give that a try.
After 8 moves my opionent resigned. He would have been down a pawn, rook and a bishop after 10 moves. Not able to escape. He made some blunders of course. But this opening is deadly if you are not paying attention. IMHO.
Peace brothers.
"If you are not paying attention" is the key, finally someone who nailed the words (at least for my own satisfaction).
Nothing special of an opening if you do pay attention however :)
Well this post has kinda gone to the dogs.
I looked at the opening. I don't study chess a lot but decided to give that a try.
After 8 moves my opionent resigned. He would have been down a pawn, rook and a bishop after 10 moves. Not able to escape. He made some blunders of course. But this opening is deadly if you are not paying attention. IMHO.
Peace brothers.
"If you are not paying attention" is the key, finally someone who nailed the words (at least for my own satisfaction).
Nothing special of an opening if you do pay attention however :)
Maybe what's special about it is that it makes it *so* hard to pay attention.
Well I just played a guy who is about 250 points above my rating. I play him all the time , we grew up together. It's a good way to stay in touch. Anyhow he cleans my clock all the time. I opened with this Queenside fried liver and after about 12 moves I was up a pawn. He came back and beat me but he had never seen it before so for awhile I had he thinking real hard. Some with a equeal rating would have beat him with this opening.????

Lol what do you mean no? He just said he almost beat someone with a rating 250 higher than him, I'm pretty sure that counts for something. Just face it, this works no matter what you theory nazis say.

Actually, he said he had the lead, and lost it in midgame, so I think it works, it's just the 250 point difference that is the issue.
IM pfren. I bet i could pwn you with this opening. But, waldojones, yes this opening does work very well when you play it, especially someone who hasnt seen it before.

If your opponent is totally dumb, then either this "opening" or 1.Nh3 will work wonders.
Else, there is very little to recommend in it. GM Igor Miladinovic has played Nc3 and Bf4 but actually intending to play a reversed Chigorin defence after e2-e3, not applying the idiotic Nc3-b5 sortie.

Oh, indeed. More than that, Black may be tricked and play 6...Ne7 threatening to win a pawn at d5, when 7.Bxf7+ may be somewhat better for white.
also you have not detected my sarcasm in my post about the fools mate declined