The Ruy Lopez Breyer variation

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1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 a6 4 Ba4 Nf6 5 O-O Be7 6 Re1 b5 7 Bb3 d6 8 c3 O-O 9 h3 Nb8

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What do you want to know?

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That's just where it begins. There are still all sorts of things to come like the Bishop/Rook reposition ( Re8/Bf8-g7 ) and the c5 outpost for the knight. White gets to twiddle his knights around on the Kingside and menace the castled King. Then there's the center/Queenside to resolve itself. You aren't going to get to the bottom of this on a forum thread.

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books =>

bologan ruy lopez :

http://www.amazon.com/Bologans-Ruy-Lopez-Black-against/dp/9056916076/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1456817504&sr=8-1&keywords=bologan+ruy+lopez

Larry Kauffman repertoire, with Breyer :

http://www.amazon.com/Kaufman-Repertoire-Black-White-User-friendly/dp/9056913719/ref=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1456817562&sr=8-2-spell&keywords=larry+kauffman+chess

If u want a dvd, the one from Eljanov about Breyer variation :

https://shop.chessbase.com/en/products/eljanov_ruy_lopez_breyer_variation

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After a very long drought, there are suddenly several books on this line and I have no idea why.  I wish the Bologan and Ntirlis books were available a few years ago.

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i dont like this variation

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SilentKnighte5 wrote:

After a very long drought, there are suddenly several books on this line and I have no idea why.  I wish the Bologan and Ntirlis books were available a few years ago.

Recently as become popular again at top level with Carlsen etc playing it. I thought of it as an opening of the 70's. The reason, at least as stated in Nitirlis book, is it leads to type of positions that software is not going to crack easily.

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When playing white I am more annoyed by the Zaitsev, which is quite related (although sharper in general)... but this does not mean the Breyer is "easy to crack".

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Recently I received an e-book about it by FM Alejandro Jardines, with more than 300 games! I prefer the Soviet name btw (Borisenko-Furman), only because it sounds cool as hell.

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Mastering the art of trolling is another thing though...

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The Ruy is killing me. Totally over my head.

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AdamovYuri wrote:

theres no point to waste time studying this complicated variation unless you are a master level player. if you are under 2100 you will get to these lines prolly ones every 100 games. such a waste of time. stick to simple things

This was also an issue when I was deciding to take this up some years ago.  Too many deviatons on the road to getting a proper Breyer.

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As a troll you are beyond the ridiculous, Yuri. I respect Silent's decision, I suppose you can for example aim for a French Rubinstein, wich is fine, as a way to narrow your repertoire as much as possible. But I play the Breyer, and therefore I must be ready to face KG, Italian, Ponziani, Center, Danish Gambit, Vienna, Four Knights, Scotch, and also RL Exchange, 5. d4, 5. d3, Exchange Deferred, 5.Nc3... So what? I'm trying to learn some things about this game, and you can't eat an elephant in one day. Do you think I try to memorize all those variations? Instead I simply play them according to certain principles and try to understand the concepts with the help of the writings about the matter. That should precede any type of deep memorization anyway. 

Do you know why sidelines have less theory? Because white is able to get advantage more easily.

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For example?

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What about trying to learn a bit about the game?

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Pulpofeira wrote:

What about trying to learn a bit about the game?

He won against a 3002 player under his previous account. There is nothing left for him to learn. GreedyYuriThessa knows and understands everything.

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LOL

pfren wrote:

Pulpofeira wrote:

What about trying to learn a bit about the game?

He won against a 3002 player under his previous account. There is nothing left for him to learn. GreedyYuriThessa knows and understands everything.

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Lol indeed.

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As far as I know, you aren't harmed by learning a bunch of stuff that you may or may not ever get to apply.