The Traxler Counterattack ALWAYS WINS!

EndgameStudier

In all variations, white gets mated, or EASILY loses. In some variations, after ke2, the king ends up getting mated on the back rank or in the center!

m_n0
Have you considered 5 Bxf7+
EndgameStudier

Yes, Bf7 isn't great cause after kf8, White will have to end u retreating eventually, and after nf7, the black can do the traxler attack, BxF2+ and have an even greater tempo.

Yigor

Any new analysis ?!? So far, it was shown that 5. Nxf7 leads to a tricky draw.

president_max

No it just always wins. It just does.  Even though it doesn't, it does.

wayne_thomas
JamesAgadir

The traxler counterattackisn't as clear cut as you think. White can hold and/or win.

EndgameStudier

Give me a variation! I'll show u how it's winning for black.

Yigor
president_max wrote:

No it just always wins. It just does.  Even though it doesn't, it does.

 

LMAO Unbeatable argument! grin.png

EndgameStudier

White CANNOT win. There's a game between 2 experts where black HAD a mate 3 SEPARATE Times, but MISSED ALL 3, so white ended up winning after a REALLY COOL GAME. I'll post it tomorrow. Look up "the craziest chess game ever" with a GM analyzing it on youtube.

wayne_thomas
EndgameStudier

I don't know everything about Bxf7+, but NxF7 is a guaranteed loss for white after Bc5.

president_max

Now we have a guarantee to boot.  Next could we have an underwriter?

wayne_thomas
EndgameStudier

Black should have played ne4+ after kxf2. that would win easily. major mistake

wayne_thomas
ArgoNavis

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Jenot

 Ninov - Marzolo

10... Ne4+ 11.Kf1 +- how should Black win here? Variations please.

Jenot

Sorry i meant 10... Ne4+ 11.Kg1 of course.

EndgameStudier

Here's the king e2 variation:

In virtually all possible moves, white gets mated or gets destroyed.

 

Hers'e the f1 variations:

If kxf2...