Thinking about trying the Nimzowitsch Defense, would you recommend trying it?

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Cravingollie


any other good lines/variations you guys can show me? Also what i am showing in the digram is what my opponents im going against at my level will most likely play.

PatzerEternal

I would move the Queen.

jlconn

Yes! Try the opening.

I recommend that beginners try every opening at least once, and that you play the good ones a few times apiece. (Spoiler alert: this counts as a good one, for the purposes of this advice.)

Why do I recommend this?

  1. it requires you to think for yourself
  2. development in chess to a large extent is about pattern recognition; in order to recognize patterns, you have to have seen them, and the more patterns you've seen, the better
  3. as you improve, you will need to make decisions based on your style; you cannot possibly begin to know your style if you haven't experienced a large variety of different positions
  4. you are also going to eventually be developing an opening repertoire, and in order to do so, you will need to know and understand your style, and be able to choose openings that suit your style, etc.

A tremendous disservice is done for our beginners when they are advised to follow opening principles without having had the chance to see why those principles exist, and even more so when they are advised to choose a small repertoire and to stick with it in order to avoid study time. No player under 1800 needs an "opening repertoire" of that sort; all games below that level are decided by relatively simple tactical errors, not by one side's successful application of a minority attack or an attack on a castled king, let alone superior knowledge of opening lines that could allow you to more often reach slightly better positions rather than just equal ones.

Let's imagine you didn't know that there was such a thing as opening books, and that you had never even heard the terms "opening", "middlegame", or "endgame".

In other words, imagine that instead of looking for blueprints to tell you what you should do between the first and nth move, you just sat down and played chess, every move, none different from the next one, from start to finish.

Say you were playing a game as Black, and your opponent played 1.e4, you replied 1...Nc6 - why did you do that? What is the idea behind that move? Your opponent then responded with 2.Nf3, and you played 2...d5 - why did you play that move? What is the idea behind it?

The game continues 3.exd5 Qxd5 4.Nc3. Your opponent played the knight to c3 to attack your queen; in fact, the probable reason he played 3.exd5 was to create this possibility. You clearly understand that you cannot allow 5.Nxd5, so you must find a safe post for your queen.

Where would you move your queen? Why?

You tell me your thoughts, and I will answer your question with what I know to be the right answer. Wouldn't it be great to know that instead of just being told what to play, that you had come up with what masters before you had come up?

PatzerEternal

Just move it to a5.  Everybody moves it to a5.

jlconn

... true, you could just do what "everybody" does, without thinking, and then not have to waste time actually playing chess. But then, I wonder, why bother playing chess at all? To avoid losing in the first twelve or so moves, get to move 13, and then lose within another twelve moves?

@PatzerEternal: Your response begs the question. If I were the OP, and were to follow your advice, the result would be that I'd find myself one move deeper in a line I've already failed to understand. Every subsequent move like that will just exacerbate the problem at hand. The question is ... what is Black doing in this position, why, and what are all of the issues at play? This is a huge decision point, and there are certainly more than just one perfectly acceptable squares for that queen, and each of them changes the character of the game in some way.

@Cravingollie, I invite you to use your own brain. Maybe you might not decide on another move besides the one given to you without explanation, but at least you will have eliminated the options with consideration and reason.

PatzerEternal

Bacrot's a 2700.  He moves it to a5.  Just move it to a5.

plotsin

what aboutQd6+? white loses a tempo having to defend the check or am I missing something

jlconn

Hello plotskin; I think you meant to suggest 4...Qe6+, right?

If so, then you aren't really missing anything, so much as you are misunderstanding what it means to "gain a tempo", and therefore reaching an incorrect conclusion.

It was White who gained a tempo over Black with 4.Nc3 - the move developed a piece, and forced Black to move the queen off of its central post - 4...Qe6+ forces White to develop another piece (5.Be2) while blocking both Black's e-pawn and Black's queen's bishop. Most likely, Black would need to again move that queen in order to properly coordinate his forces. So the move that you thought would gain a tempo, would in all likelihood, eventually lose one or more tempi.