Catalan this, Catalan that. It scores well because it’s new. Give it a couple decades and I doubt it’ll be anywhere near as popular. Such is the way of GM chess.
It scores well for the same reason Scoth and Spanish Game does well...white has every pro black has plus more.
LOL. d5 below the Dutch?? So the most principled way to answer is below a response that immediately weakens your king? Also e6 is a transpositional and solid move also better than f5. The list is trash.
black has very little chance of achieving anything with the kid at top level
and it also looks like blacks ideas are weird in some lines, and also kinda dont exist that much
and catalan isnt like +2 for white or anything
Catalan this, Catalan that. It scores well because it’s new. Give it a couple decades and I doubt it’ll be anywhere near as popular. Such is the way of GM chess.
Maybe. It could end up like the Italian or Spanish, which have stayed prominent throughout time, or it could just be a fad
Spanish is objectively the best way for White to play the position, and Italian is only very very slightly worse, kind of like playing 3. Nc3 rather than 3. Nf3 in the QGD. The Catalan is more like the Scotch or the Vienna where White still gets a very solid position but Black equalizes much sooner than in the more classical variations.
wuts the difference between Nc3 and Nf3 in qgd
definitely smaller than the two different worlds of the italian and ruy
wuts the difference between Nc3 and Nf3 in qgd
definitely smaller than the two different worlds of the italian and ruy
The italian and the ruy are hell of a lot different
LOL. d5 below the Dutch?? So the most principled way to answer is below a response that immediately weakens your king? Also e6 is a transpositional and solid move also better than f5. The list is trash.
The most principled way is also the most symmetric way, wher black has doesn't have the same counter play. Dutch on the other hand has good counter play, restricts e4, and allows the rook to be more influential early on.
wuts the difference between Nc3 and Nf3 in qgd
definitely smaller than the two different worlds of the italian and ruy
Nc3 allows Bb5 and is a bit committal, while Nf3 allows White to play 4. Nc3 or 4. g3, wherein the b1 knight may want to be on d2 rather than c3. Similarly, Bc4 allows Bc5 and is a bit committal, while Bb4 allows white to play 7. c3 or 7. d3, where Black has already played a6 and b5, allowing for counterplay on the queenside. While realistically the mainlines of all four are approximately the same: slightly better but still a draw with best play. However, the Ruy and Nf3 allow White more options while the Italian and Nc3 allow Black more options.
the thing is ruy and italian never transpose and are more different than Nc3 and Nf3 where they can literally transpose the next move
also what abt exchange qgd and the Nc3 Bg5 line?
Hm
I agree with most of the rankings although I do think the c6 one could be a bit higher. I myself play the Indian a lot and I think it is a very good opening with lots of chances for black.
c6 which you ranked nr.10 is better than all your top tier choices and equal to your nr.1, 2 and 3 nf6, d5 and e6. only players who play the slav and the caro which is a smart combination will play it. you put e6 on nr.3 and there you can also be forced into the french. so i really dont see your point
a6 is also better than b6 if you plan to go for a center push with c6 and d5 later.
@Yerachmeal
d5 is more solid which is what black wants in their opening. Also 1.d4 f5 2. Bg5 and the Dutch is dead. You people reinvent theory and principles. Have you ever watched a critical game where black played the Dutch? Also you showed the Leningrad where white can literally push the h-pawn and ruin everything black does. Noone would play a catalan set up against the Leningrad.
The Catalan is super solid for white and that's it. Black can go for a slav (reverse London system) set up and be safe.
c6 which you ranked nr.10 is better than all your top tier choices and equal to your nr.1, 2 and 3 nf6, d5 and e6. only players who play the slav and the caro which is a smart combination will play it. you put e6 on nr.3 and there you can also be forced into the french. so i really dont see your point
a6 is also better than b6 if you plan to go for a center push with c6 and d5 later.
Again, white can just take out either knight, or his dark-squared bishop, and make c6 be useless. Example
This position was reached in 102 master games, and white won 56% of them, while black won 9%. if white develops other pieces first he makes c6 be pointless. It becomes the Accelerated London and white avoids the Steinitz Countergambit.
@Yerachmeal
d5 is more solid which is what black wants in their opening. Also 1.d4 f5 2. Bg5 and the Dutch is dead. You people reinvent theory and principles. Have you ever watched a critical game where black played the Dutch? Also you showed the Leningrad where white can literally push the h-pawn and ruin everything black does. Noone would play a catalan set up against the Leningrad.
Bg5 does not kill the Dutch
Black lags in development, but has more counter play than white has ordinary play.
Not if black does the kid. Unless white has an alternative that reaches the Catalan, oranything even resembling the Catalan with instead of
(I know both sides have other ways of playing it, but the point is white can't extract anything resembling the Catalan without black's approval, where as with e6 it doesn't automatically become the Catalan itself, but it does tend to have similar problems to it).