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Jun 6, 2023
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#43
Chuck639 wrote:
Ilampozhil25 wrote:
summing up:
chuck is ratings shaming (getting to 1400 by LEARNING EN PASSANT what a joke) while doing the age old argument "mainlines are garbage coz theory"
If you read the title, I disagreed with it
ok which is more probable
"top 5 responses to the sicilian ranked" meaning objectively, or based on how easy it is to play
the second imo would most likely be "top 5 most practical responses to the sicilian ranked", imo top means objectively best unless clarified
and at some point, refuted the point by not playing an early Nc6; not all Sicilian players play the Old Variation.
refuted what?
who said that the open cant be played vs d6 or e6 lol
if youre talking abt the rossolimo fine but thats like saying that "nid is a top opening vs d4" is a bad argument coz white can avoid it
That has nothing to do with rating points. A 900 booked to the teeth is a different story because it’s unpractical but OP explained he’s already booked up.
first off its impractical (i remember some time someone told me that unpossible is a dictionary entry and is different to impossible to pls dont pull that argument here) but anyway
who said that everyone has "improving in chess" as their no 1 priority in chess
i can think of one thing many people put higher: "having fun with chess"
and if the op finds liking openings to be fun, so be it (besides it isnt farfetched to like openings; i do)
Jun 6, 2023
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#44
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
Chuck639 wrote:
That’s is your opinion. I play the Najdorf as well but would still deter beginners from learning it and never mind playing it:
I think that's just being silly. Sicilian Najdorf has some of the richest positions in chess and aims to fight for a win.
In that sense it can be very good motivation as you are just playing for the enjoyment of the game and to win instead of just the boring "plain, simple, babysteps" chess that someone else tells you to play. Just ruins the fun of the game.
Most people find being stuck at a rating not that “fun of a game”.
Beginners should be working on basic tactics not deep opening studies.
Chuck639 wrote:
Most people find being stuck at a rating not that “fun of a game”.
Who is stuck? Statement with no basis.
Jun 6, 2023
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#46
most people?
i can remember many cases where people "play for fun and dont care abt rating" but maybe thats just me...
Chuck639 wrote:
Beginners should be working on basic tactics not deep opening studies is my opinion.
And you can still play Najdorf at lower levels without deep opening preparation as everyone will be at the same level and have about the same knowledge.
Opponents are not booked up GMs or engines. They are other amateurs.
Jun 6, 2023
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#48
#51 is another one of those comments completely refuting a whole train of thought in two lines
Jun 6, 2023
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#49
Ilampozhil25 wrote:
most people?
i can remember many cases where people "play for fun and dont care abt rating" but maybe thats just me...
1200 rapid is top 20% on this site, so 1200 and under would be “most people” in my books. Aka as beginners?
Jun 6, 2023
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#50
wait
you are now switching the statement to go from "most people dont enjoy not improving"
to "most people are beginners"
which most people is this, and will i get this stuff again
anyway who said that even a significant fraction of those beginners "dont enjoy not improving"
many beginners play purely for fun (and as for me; i play semi seriously ig)
Statement by most of the "don't play Sicilian" types:
Don't play Open Sicilian as white because opponent will outprep you with their extensive knowledge of theory.
Don't play Sicilian as black because opponent will outprep you with their extensive knowledge of theory.
So who are these people exactly?
Is it white who is always more booked up with theory?
Or is it black who is always more booked up with theory?
Where are all these "booked up like a GM" 1200s coming from?
You can never win against these 1200s and their encyclopedia of theory regardless of what colour you're playing?
They are just that booked up and that good?
Jun 6, 2023
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#52
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
Chuck639 wrote:
Beginners should be working on basic tactics not deep opening studies is my opinion.
And you can still play Najdorf at lower levels without deep opening preparation as everyone will be at the same level and have about the same knowledge.
Opponents are not booked up GMs or engines. They are other amateurs.
When I am analyzing games between players of 1200 or less, I am just literally counting up the blunders, misses and missed tactics.
Chuck639 wrote:
When I am analyzing games between players of 1200 or less, I am just literally counting up the blunders, misses and missed tactics.
Exactly!
Jun 6, 2023
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#55
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
Statement by most of the "don't play Sicilian" types:
Don't play Open Sicilian as white because opponent will outprep you with their extensive knowledge of theory.
Don't play Sicilian as black because opponent will outprep you with their extensive knowledge of theory.
So who are these people exactly?
Is it white who is always more booked up with theory?
Or is it black who is always more booked up with theory?
Where are all these "booked up like a GM" 1200s coming from?
You can never win against these 1200s and their encyclopedia of theory regardless of what colour you're playing?
They are just that booked up and that good?
Go play a bunch of 15/10 rapid and I am confident that your losses will be due to blunders, missed tactics and misses, not because your opponent is prepared with theory.
This is all in your head.
KingVandheer wrote:
Chuck639 yazdı:
SamuelAjedrez95 wrote:
TheSampson wrote:
Half a month*
I didn’t waste anything, I’ve gotten the Najdorf before lol
But even then, the knowledge is very useful for the future and I’m still studying middlegame and endgame content.
Najdorf is worth learning as it's one of the best and most interesting openings (if not the most). It would be better if more people thought the same instead of being scared off by perpetuated misconceptions.
That’s is your opinion. I play the Najdorf as well but would still deter beginners from learning it and never mind playing it:
Pretty interesting you suggested Catalan on the other thread but stay weary of Najdorf. Why is that?
He argues that you’ll get the Najdorf only every hundred games, while the Catalan could be much more common.
The Najdorf is good, even for beginners. As Sampson said, he’s gotten multiple games in the Najdorf before, and it’s one of the richest openings in chess.
ScrumptiousBricks wrote:
The Najdorf is good, even for beginners. As Sampson said, he’s gotten multiple games in the Najdorf before, and it’s one of the richest openings in chess.
“As Sampson said, I’ve*”
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:
Chuck is being cornered by this group lol .... anyways i feel that chuck u are arguing with the wrong guys. They say about one formula/ opinion which has never worked for them. We the principled chess players or whatever u call it, give advice which have worked for us and was taught by our coaches. Yes najdorf is playable as beginners but why not play something that follows the things that u learnt? Why not just develop the pieces and castle and see where it takes u? Why not focus on basic things like pinning the pieces, looking for basic tactics etc? It's just fancy to play something like the najdorf at that level
the “formula” has worked for me and is working for me lol
Jun 6, 2023
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#60
Ultimate-trashtalker wrote:
Chuck is being cornered by this group lol .... anyways i feel that chuck u are arguing with the wrong guys. They say about one formula/ opinion which has never worked for them. We the principled chess players or whatever u call it, give advice which have worked for us and was taught by our coaches. Yes najdorf is playable as beginners but why not play something that follows the things that u learnt? Why not just develop the pieces and castle and see where it takes u? Why not focus on basic things like pinning the pieces, looking for basic tactics etc? It's just fancy to play something like the najdorf at that level
The victory goes to Levy because he’s the one living rent free in these guys head, not me.
That’s is your opinion. I play the Najdorf as well but would still deter beginners from learning it and never mind playing it:
I think that's just being silly. Sicilian Najdorf has some of the richest positions in chess and aims to fight for a win.
In that sense it can be very good motivation as you are just playing for the enjoyment of the game and to win instead of just the boring "plain, simple, babysteps" chess that someone else tells you to play. Just ruins the fun of the game.