Two Knights' Defense 5.exd5 Na5 8.Bd3 =

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LoekBergman

@Cnacnel: it should be 23. fe5: Ne5: 24. Bb7: etc..

Wow, that Ne3 was a splendid move indeed! Four moves later returns the knight to c2 and has the bishop the possibility to get developed. But what is that absolute bind thing ? What does it mean in chess?

C-nack
pfren wrote:

9.Ne3? indeed gives a good idea about your playing strength and positional understanding. But it's funny to see you after so many years commenting on that very poor move, awarding it an exclam and claiming "absolute bind on d5" which is effortlessly managed by a single pawn on e6, while that poor knight just hampers the natural development of the c1 bishop.

Is that really as deep as you can get, positionally-wise?

I wouldn't be so harsh as to give it a "?", more like "?!" but definitely not "!". Isn't 9. Be2 O-O 10. O-O the most logical sequence? d5 is harmless here since if 9.Be2 d5? 10. cxd5 exd5 11. exd5 comes with tempo, white has a passed pawn and black's pieces are disconnected.

sloughterchess
pfren wrote:

Some fresh stuff on that variation:

 


Oh, and of course white has played 11.h3 in ALL the games this position has encountered, but as usual Sloughter did not bother checking insignificant things like grandmaster games and databases... his Houdini knows better, doesn't he?

 

After 8.Bd3 Nd5 9.Ne4 Nf4 10.O-O Isn't just 10...f5 a better try for equality?

aggressivesociopath

Your right but you cought me in a typograhical error. I have known about 9. Ne4 f5 10. Ng3 Nf4 11. Bf1 Bc5 12. c3 Bb6 13. d4 Ng6 14. Bd3 O-O 15. b4 Nb7 16. Bc4+ Kh8 and Black had the inititive in Castaldi-Keres Stockholm 1937. That is not even my own work, I read about it in a book. I found my opening notebook on the two knights and I had the superior 9. Nf3 Bd6 10. O-O Nf4 11. Re1 Nxd3 with good compensation for the pawn in R. Robson-R. Vanpen Courus C group 2010. (The whole line deserves more attention.) If you remember your origninal point was that White has an advantage in this line and only 8...Ng4 equalizes so besides pointing out that I made a mistake and make me spend a few moments wondering why you hung a pawn before I relized it I don't see your point. I still think 8...Nd5 is the critical line. Also, what ever is in your last post won't load so I don't know what it is. 

aggressivesociopath

Wait a minute I diden't make a typograhical error I had 9.Nf3 the whole time and so did the game Pren posted. You fooled me back into this thread.

Irontiger
sloughterchess wrote:
asmund_hammerstad wrote:

sloughterchess Do you even understand chess at all? You have 11 losses one win and 1 draw at online chess. You at least don't cheat..

By the same token I finished tied for first in the 2012 New York State Open (U1800) and second place finish in 2011. One published game in Inside Chess, three in Chess Life. Three awards from Chess Life for my theories, numerous GM's have published my theories in Chess Life, including World Champion Garry Kasparov, published dozens of articles and three critically acclaimed books. An IM is going to coauthor a book with me on the TKD and the Evans Gambit. When she was a teenager even GM Judit Polgar appreciated my ideas. Yes I understand chess, but on line discussions don't serve me particularly well. Rather than a discussion of ideas it degrades into a discussion of personalities.

Those who can do--those who can't teach

The bigger the lie is, the more the liar expects it to be believed, apparently.

sloughterchess
aggressivesociopath wrote:

Wait a minute I diden't make a typograhical error I had 9.Nf3 the whole time and so did the game Pren posted. You fooled me back into this thread.

 

No deception was intended, I misread the initial game.

Steelerrebel

f you would like to see the thoughts of a correspondence master on this subject, see http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-Knights-A-Chess-Killing-Machine-with-an-Emphasis-on-4-Ng5-/271319251507?ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123

Conquistador
Steelerrebel wrote:

f you would like to see the thoughts of a correspondence master on this subject, see http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-Knights-A-Chess-Killing-Machine-with-an-Emphasis-on-4-Ng5-/271319251507?ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:1123

Dude you have spammed this link on every Two Knights Defense thread.  Advertising much?

lolurspammed

So what's the current verdict on 8.Bd3? This is the only line in the the two knights that gives me big trouble, especially the h4 line.

1dr3wdr01df15h
lolurspammed wrote:

So what's the current verdict on 8.Bd3? This is the only line in the the two knights that gives me big trouble, especially the h4 line.

Could you give more detail than "the h4 line"?