Vienna Gambit

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Is the Vienna Gambit good for beginners to play or is it too dangerous? I played it a few times and i've had good moments and bad moments with it.Not sure if it is a complex opening that needs a bit more studying.Pls let me know thanks!
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This was a game that went good for me featuring the Vienna Gambit.I must say that my opponent played well against it,though i beat him in a sneaky checkmate

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And this is where i lost with a Vienna Gambit opening.Still was a bit unsure of the opening but i tried it anyhow

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It depends what you're looking for. Some beginners want to play dangerous openings to sharpen their tactics. Not that the Vienna gambit is terribly dangerous. The Vienna gambit is perfectly playable and not something your opponents are likely to know more about than you do. People tend to be less well prepared against it than the King's gambit for example. Are you happy with the positions you get after 1. e4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. f4 d5 4. fxe5 Nxe4. There's no theoretical edge for white there, but if you feel confident about the plans and typical hectically motifs for both sides then go for it!

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*tactical (not hectically!)

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I am a long-time Vienna enthusiast, so I applaud your choice, and I'm always interested in seeing other players who appreciate this opening for white. 

However, it does require alot of study & practice to keep on making progress and improving your understanding.  When I was first studying it back  in the 80's, I only had a few books and whatever I could find in chess magazines. Today, with all the online resources, its easier to gather information, but its still alot to absorb, depending on how much time you have available to focus on chess-studying, vs other things you can be doing in Life. 

Anyhow, if you want to undertake a study, or try out variations:  After 2) Nc3, black's most common replies are 2.. Nc6 or 2.. Nf6.   In the first game you posted above, 2...d6 is a passive move that is typically played by those who dont know what to play as black.  The other two knight moves would be more testing for white, and you need to decide if you want to go for the 3) f4 gambit lines, or go a little less tactical with 3) g3 lines. 

One thing to point out:  after 2) Nc3,   Bc5 is a valid reply by black.  Now white has to decide whether to play  3) f4, Nf3, or Bc4.   If 3) f4 it can transpose to a King Gambit (declined if 3... d6).  The c5 Bishop can be annoying for white, as it aims on f2, especially when white has not castled, and black has threats such as Nf6, Ng4 to further aim at f2 square.  You also have to be on the lookout for Qh4 moves by black (yet again, aiming on f2).  In your first game, had your opponent not played Nf6, it would have kept that diagonal open for a possible Qh4 check. 

In your 2nd game, instead of Bb5, in which you gave up the bishop, perhaps was better to hold off on developing that piece and play Nf3 instead, pressuring e5, and if black takes pawn on f4, you are likely to get it back soon after quickly completing your development and control of center with d4.  Nf3 also keeps eye on h4 square, (Qh4 check by black)  as I mentioned earlier- when white has pawn on f4, his f2 square is vulnerable.

if starting out, check out instructional videos online, You Tube, etc, for example:

https://www.thechesswebsite.com/vienna-game/