Vienna Game, Mieses Variation

Sort:
NWHL33
When I was younger I was receiving private lessons from a chess teacher. While receiving a private lesson one day, my teacher gave me an opening. I did not know what it was called at the time (and I did not care because I was only 8) but I became very successful with it. Flash forward to now and I finally figured out what it is called: Vienna Game, Mieses Variation. I just want to know why no one uses it, and where I can find some theory on it.
kindaspongey

Maybe try: Vienna Game by Lane

https://web.archive.org/web/20140627005622/http://www.chesscafe.com/text/hansen19.pdf

xprimexinverse

In the Vienna Game, the Mieses Variation is sometimes called the Smyslov or Glek Variation. I learned this opening from IM Andrew Martin's chessbase DVD on the Vienna Game. He suggests this line against when Black plays 2...Nf6. He doesn't recommend the Mieses Variation against 2...Nc6, however. If I remember correctly, he doesn't make this recommendation because in the 2...Nc6 line, it is easier for Black to muster up a strong kingside initiative with ideas of a pawn storm against White's kingside fianchetto. I'd say that DVD is a particularly good one and worth a look. It's available for purchase here: https://shop.chessbase.com/en/products/the_abc_of_the_vienna If you're just a regular player, this DVD will cover the Vienna Game in enough detail for you to play enjoyable and good games with it. A book would be more difficult to digest and probably contain more detail than you need. So, have a think about the options. DVD - couple of hours study to play and understand the opening at a decent level. Book - hours of study, which you might not ever get around to reading properly. =) Good luck!

darkunorthodox88

its a luxury system where white usually  slows down the game (The exception being 1.e4 e5 2.nc3 nf6 3.g3 d5 which engines tend to like and opens the game somewhat). i tend to play it via 1.nc3 nf6 2.e4 e5, where i can play 3.f4 agaisnt weaker players and 3.g3 agaisnt stronger players.

 

if black doesnt play the immediate 3.d5 as mentioned above, the game stays closed, and revolving more around the likely f4 break white will make after castling. notice too that if black play for a slow build-up via c6-d5, white often gets advantage by playing d4 quickly with a knight on e2 o f3 reinforcing the d push.

engines often give black some miniscule advantage in some lines, much like in the closed sicilian for white, but it is an opening more focused on themes than precise moves. white has 3-4 plans he can try to go for usually.

 

-engineer the f4 break usually after castling which leads to a kingside attack, sometimes, the d4 breaks if it proves opportune.

-establish a knight on d5, and hope for some space advantage after  nxd5

-if possible, try to trade the queen knight for your opponents king bishop often on c5. this is why many players, play a cautious a6.

 

here is a sample position of the g3 vienna. 

 

notice all of white's possibilities. he can play f4 as he intended, but he can also play for nd5, or even be3 where the doubled pawns are not so bad.  engines tend to very slightly prefer black in these type of positions, but let me tell you that despite the smooth development, playign agaisnt the white pawn mass is not easy.

 

Firethorn15

Engines are virtually useless in this type of position (slow kingside attacks; see also KID). I've seen positions in the more traditional Vienna (3.Bc4) which the engine evaluates as better or even winning for Black because it is unable to see White's attack coming, and then suddenly switches to completely winning for White.