want some advices on queen pawn opening

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Stay138
I decide to study the queen pawn opening and I need you gays give me some help. Shall I begin with queenside gambit? Furthermore is there any defense you may recommend? Anti-d4 defenses I mean of course 😀. By the way I know the Sicilian pretty well, it will be awesome if there can be a defense similar to the Sicilian.
Any suggestions?
Yigor

The Dutch defense 1. d4 f5 is somewhat similar to Sicilian if U take into the account the vertical pseudo-symmetry. happy.png

Yigor
Stay138 wrote:
I decide to study the queen pawn opening and I need you gays give me some help.

 

Do U need only gay's advices? grin.png

TalSpin

Yigor wrote:

Stay138 wrote:
I decide to study the queen pawn opening and I need you gays give me some help.

 

Do U need only gay's advices? grin.png

Lmfao I didn't even notice gays instead of guys at first. I was about to answer and saw this and literally laughed out loud

TalSpin

Yigor wrote:

Stay138 wrote:
I decide to study the queen pawn opening and I need you gays give me some help.

 

Do U need only gay's advices? grin.png

But yes, the Queen's Gambit would be a good place to start. There's a lot of theory in a lot of lines and black has a good number of defenses to choose from that are solid. You'll most often face KID, Nimzo-Indian, Slav/Semi-Slav or QGD lines, sometimes the Grunfeld, Benoni, Budapest or QID. Very rarely do I see the QG accepted, but it does happen sometimes. You don't have to know all these, but you DO need to know the basics and how to play against each. Go over a database with 1. d4 and play through the lines to get an idea and it'll help you decide on your own defense as black as well.

TalSpin

Yigor wrote:

Stay138 wrote:
I decide to study the queen pawn opening and I need you gays give me some help.

 

Do U need only gay's advices? grin.png

Whoops didn't mean to quote that post a second time.

kindaspongey

First Steps: The Queen's Gambit by Andrew Martin

https://www.newinchess.com/Shop/Images/Pdfs/7652.pdf

Stay138
Yigor 写道:
Stay138 wrote:
I decide to study the queen pawn opening and I need you gays give me some help.

 

Do U need only gay's advices?

Oh my...You noticed this and still answer.

I won't tell anyone that you have a secret...lol

Thank you Yigor. Always helpful and humorous

bmfeher

Personally, I stay away from gambits...the word itself implies, "to gamble."  Good, solid defense will beat almost any gambit, every time.  Gambits also tend to open the board up, which is very good for today's modern style of player who likes an open board - and there are MANY out there.  Better to look at becoming a positional player, and avoid the gambits.  This also means not falling for them.  The ultimate goal, of course, is to mess with your opponent's head.  Play off-beat, disrupt the rhythm of the opening.  Suggest opening with 1) d4, Nf6....it defends against the followup of 2) d5, gets some power out there, and send the message that you are not going to be intimidated by a queen pawn.  For someone used to seeing an immediate pawn move, they run the risk of overextending with their "good fortune."  Study Nimzovich...not the opening...study the man's thinking.

Yigor
Stay138 wrote:
Yigor 写道:
Stay138 wrote:
I decide to study the queen pawn opening and I need you gays give me some help.

 

Do U need only gay's advices?

Oh my...You noticed this and still answer.

I won't tell anyone that you have a secret...lol

Thank you Yigor. Always helpful and humorous

 

RoFL Hopefully, there are no gender complications in the chess gameplay, like male and female openings. My Dutch defense similarity was somewhat gay though. wink.png

Yigor
jengaias wrote:
Yigor wrote:

The Dutch defense 1. d4 f5 is somewhat similar to Sicilian if U take into the account the vertical pseudo-symmetry.

Yigor , you sometimes surprise me with the nonsense you say.

Dutch defense has no similarity at all with Sicilian , except from the "vertical pseudo- symmetry"(as you call it).

 

Come on, something can still surprise U, that's a good sign. happy.png

Stay138
So KID is kingside Indian defense right? I wander the difference between it and Nimzo-Indian
Yigor
Stay138 wrote:
So KID is kingside Indian defense right? I wander the difference between it and Nimzo-Indian

 

In KID black makes the kingside fianchetto instead of Bb4 typical for Bogo- and Nimzo-Indian.

Stay138
Do they have another name like "old Indian"and "new Indian "?
In Chinese the two translate like this
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bmfeher, queens gambit is not a true gambit, as black cannot keep the pawn.  It's an offer of an exchange.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen%27s_Gambit

Stay138
Clear. Thank you all guys and gays Lol
Yigor
Stay138 wrote:
Clear. Thank you all guys and gays Lol

 

and gals too! wink.png

bmfeher

happy.png  please be careful in citing anything from wiki - while in this case, I think it's correct, you can't always trust the sources from which wiki draws.  I disagree with it not being called a true gambit - it's a gamble for white to gain the momentum by moving multiple pieces as opposed to Black "wasting" a move by moving the same piece twice, and it's a gamble for black on whether it's better to give up the center in favor of a sharp angled game, or to try and stand firm, risking committing resources to defend  the center.  

 

gunslinger222

Ive played the queens gambit for over 20 years. The initial attraction was that everyone starts off playing 1.e4 and I wanted to be different, as well as a main line in the QGD where you have opposite side castling! Start off by looking at 1.d4, d5. 2. c4, e6. 3. Nc3, Nf6. 4. Bg5, Be7.

Stay138
I've started with Nimzo-Indian! Meanwhile I read some QG opening games.