what chessable opening for white should i get

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DaviesShelby

been playing keep it simple e4 for a few years now, am now bored with it, which other courses can you recommend for intermidiate players? or should i just continue with the keep it simple rep?

DaviesShelby
Raspbeardy wrote:

I wouldn't pay for any chessable course. Instead watch GM games and pick a different opening they use, like the QGD.

if you wouldn't pay thats fine, so this topic wasn't adressed for people like you, am looking for opinions for people who have chessable comments, thank you

DaviesShelby
Raspbeardy wrote:

If you are willing to pay, then go ahead. Waste your money, buy a course.

its my money, you got no dog in this fight 

ConfusedGhoul

Wesley So's 1. e4 is really good, it's a bit high level but the analysis is always understandable and I believe it really helped my middlegames and endgames as well

ThrillerFan
DaviesShelby wrote:
Raspbeardy wrote:

I wouldn't pay for any chessable course. Instead watch GM games and pick a different opening they use, like the QGD.

if you wouldn't pay thats fine, so this topic wasn't adressed for people like you, am looking for opinions for people who have chessable comments, thank you

 

Unlike him, I would not say do not spend money, but I would say spend it elsewhere.

 

Chessable does a horrible job of teaching openings.  It tries to drill memorization rather than actually teach the opening.

 

For example, let's say you are taking a course on the Exchange Slav.  It will show you the moves, like let's say, 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.cxd5 cxd5 4.Nf3.  OK, now you try.  You play 1.d4, it plays 1...d5.  You have to play c4.  It plays ...c6.  You have to play cxd5, etc.  It will simply say you are wrong if you give the wrong move.

 

After you get it, it shows you 4...Nf6 and 5.Nc3, then makes you do the same thing.  It is like playing Simon.  That electronic kids game with the red, green, blue, and yellow lights, where it goes Red, you hit red, red-blue, you hit red blue, red-blue-green, you hit red blue green, red-blue-green-blue, you hit red blue green blue, etc 

 

It does not actually explain much of anything.  Maybe a brief blurb here or there.

 

There are better places to invest the money.

 

1) When it comes to middle game and endgame, since things like endgame theory does not change (WPe5, WKe6, BKe8 will FOR EVER be a win for White no matter who is to move), get a physical book, board, and actual pieces (not a computer screen).  It is the best way to study.  Middle game, End game, and bio/game collection books.

 

For openings, I suggest you subscribe to chesspublishing.com.  It is a yearly subscription, and you can get access to 1, 3, 6, or all 12 sections.  I can also give you a run down of how well each section is written.

 

Section 1 - 1.e4 e5 - This section recently changed hands as to who writes for it as the previous author recently quit.  I think the owner of the site, Tony Kosten, took over if memory serves me right for now, and he is reputable.

Section 2 - French - John Waston, a French guru, does an excellent job with this section, and his updates are always on time.

Section 3 - Dragons - This section is a complete rip off.  His updates are always late.  Last time I looked, April 10th, it was still on the February update, even March was not out yet.  Also, every month is 6 games and that is it.  The rest of them cover roughly 8 to 11 a month, heavily analyzed.  Avoid this one if possible unless you go for all 12 sections.

Section 4 - Open Sicilians - I cannot say a whole lot as I rarely subscribe to this section.  I play anti-sicilians as White and The French as Black.

Section 5 - Anti-Sicilians - Does a decent job of covering main stream anti-Sicilians (Rossolimo, Aladin, Grand Prix, etc.)

Section 6 - All other 1.e4.  This section seems to change hands of who authors it every year.  I almost never subscribe to this section.

Section 7 - 1.d4 d5.  Another I rarely use.

Section 8 - 1.d4 Specials.  This is probably the most critical section in the bunch.  It covers the London, Torre, Colle, Jobava, etc.  Ever since Palliser took over, it is EXCELLENTLY covered.  When Eric Prie handled it a decade ago, it was total crap because all he ever talked about was the London and Jobava.  Kicked the rest of them (Torre, Colle, Veresov, Zukertort, etc) to the curb.

Section 9 - Kings Indian - David Vigorito covered this for 2 decades but quit maybe a year ago, not sure who took over.

Section 10 - Nimzo and Modern Benoni - John Emms has done that section pretty much since day 1 in 1999.  Covers it well, but can be late with his updates sometimes.  Not nearly as bad as Chris Ward in section 3, and he does not limit his updates to 6 games either.

Section 11 - Daring Defenses - Long time author Glenn Flear has covered this section on the Grunfeld, English Defense, Dutch, Old Benonis, Benko Gambit, etc excellently, and has often filled in for other authors in other sections when they needed a break, doing double duty, if that gives you an idea of his dedication to the site.

Section 12 - Flank Openings - David Cummings does a decent job of covering the English, Reti, and everything else that is not 1.e4 or 1.d4.

 

I usually do 3 myself, French, d4-Specials, and whatever I am playing against d4 at that time.

 

If you buy 1, 3, or 6, and like it and realize you want more, they will pro-rate the time you have left in your current subscription and let you upgrade and add sections.

If you let it lapse, and then resubscribe, you do not have to subscribe to the same sections you subscribed to the previous year.

 

 

Far, far, FAR BETTER than Chessable will ever be.  Again, it is www.chesspublishing.com.

ThrillerFan
Raspbeardy wrote:

"I can also give you a run down of how well each section is written."

Thanks for the link, I never knew this existed. So, it looks like they put up articles individually, and then when the next one comes out the previous article goes into some archive which we can pay for in sections. Is this correct?

 

If so, maybe the guy who takes forever to update on the Sicilian is just leaving it there for more exposure to new readers.

 

The way it works is the latest article shows by default when you go to the section.  The articles can be reached for free.  You have to pay to be able to access the annotated games that are behind the links.  So before you pay, you can at least look at what the articles look like.

 

If you use a laptop or tablet rather than a phone, you will see links on the right to the previous 3 articles, and the stuff before that is in the archives, which goes back all the way to 1999.

 

There is also a database with the archives, and it knows what you can and cannot access by ECO Code.  So, for example, if you subscribe to French, 1.d4 d5, and Flank Openings, you can download any games with ECO C00-C19, D06-D69, and A00-A39.

 

You can also download every game that pertains to a section at once from the database archive.  Like in my case, I could download every French Game, and then work off the database.  Then each month, download that month's games and add to the database.

 

The section archives also have links to the archived articles.  You can also get to games via the ebooks on there.

 

A lot better than Chessable.

ThrillerFan

The site is not a "Beginner's" site on transpositions.  They do not go thru move orders.  It is purely game analysis separated by openings.

 

It is basically your job to know that 1.d4 e6 2.e4 d5 is a French, not a QP opening.

 

Or a better example:

 

1.e4 d5 (Scandinavian) 2.exd5 Nf6 3.c4 c6 4.d4 cxd5 (Now it is a Caro-Kann, Panov-Botvinnik Attack) 5.Nc3 e6 6.Nf3 Bb4 (Now, depending on what White does, this more often than not transposes directly into a Nimzo-Indian, and would be covered as a Nimzo-Indian game - Hence why you saw the 1.Nf3 game in the e4 e5 section - because in reality, after the transposition, you are in a Philidor, not a Flank Opening.

 

Another common transposition is 1.c4 e6 2.Nc3 d5 3.d4, a QGD, not an English.

 

If the concept of the transposition confuses you, you may need to compliment your subscription with an entry level book on general opening concepts.  This site is not meant to teach a beginner on openings.  It is intended to be in depth analysis of Games, combining main stream openings with recent novelties and ideas and coverage from games being played today at the GM level.

dpnorman

It depends on the course/author how deep the explanations are. 

ClegChess

"The Dynamic Italian Game" by Krykun is an excellent course on Chessable.

GM_NAMANKUMAR07

1c4 by sielecki and Simon williams 

Grunfeld by swidler ;classical sicilian by shankland 

Symmetrical english by David vigorito 

Anti sicilian by Alex colveic

 

Romans_5_8_and_8_5

If you buy all those chessable courses, you'll end up like @I_PLAY_LIKE_CARUANA!!! 😂😂😂

GM_NAMANKUMAR07

That would be better than becoming like you 

GM_NAMANKUMAR07

I think you are talking about @I_PLAYLIKE_CARUANA 

I HAVE PLAYED HIM ONCE IN OTB 

ANYWAY HE HAS NATIONAL RATINGS OF 1500 U FOOL BE CAREFUL BEFORE SAYING SOMETHING TO SOMEBODY

EKAFC

I had a good Chessable streak of over 100 days. However, I was not getting better with my openings. In fact, I did better when I created my own analysis of an opening and put it into Chesstempo. I was able to use it in one situation but no one really plays it so I doesn't really help me much. It mostly makes you feel productive when in reality I just play the same moves without even looking at what my opponent has played which.

swarminglocusts
Derek Kelley is the best way to go. Research and see how openings are done. If you are interested in an opening you see then buy the Book or DVD from what you have seen in your liking. I would play the opening first after watching Derek’s videos. Write down the questions you have and work on the game. If you are not liking the opening you either need the middle game plans and or the opening is not your style. Once again if you get a book that does not tell the middle game explicitly then it’s almost trash. I would recommend a download or DVD mainly because it’s easier to see the moves and you can toy around with the variations so you can see the variations as they go.

Have you tried the scotch game e4 e5 Nf3 Nc6 d4? It more tactical and Kasparov used it to keep his title.
LogoCzar

Just castle the king! In your opponent's territory. Still theory. wink