What do you think of the Colle System

Of course you can argue against a database if the games are sourced from kindergarten championships.

I get this feeling you had that argument with that someone else in one of my forums...

Chessbase Mega Database, updated since a couple of weeks ago. Only long time control games show, sorted by rating white. You are right, only a few patzers play the Colle.

Yeah, not gonna name them though for ethical reasons.

Colle is passive, but venomous. I've lost to it a lot because I didn't know what to do.

i dont remember colle system much

 but zuckertort variation.. was better if i recall correctly. or maybe i liked it i dont remember exactly.

Suzan polgar likes it.. it was suzan right.. yeah correct. i found her video. this was a good video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dorwTb_J1uc

Most strong players prefer the Zuckertort, as it is stratyegically richer than the Koltanowski. Both are perfectly playable, though.

T-T why u gotta expose me like that

I've seen Hikaru Nakamura play an early d4, in Nimzo-Larsen type positions.

He plays it quite often, actually (when playing online). He rarely seems puts his pawn on d3, unless it's more of a KIA position.

It usually seems to work out nicely for him. His d4 pawn either advances to d5, or gets exchanged away for black's c5 or e5 pawn, at some point.

So Bb2 + d4 is obviously playable, but I agree with you that blocking that bishop in often "feels" wrong.

When analyzing on my laptop, Stockfish seems to like d4 more (grabbing central space), while Komodo seems to like d3 more (keeping the bishop open).

Yes, I sometimes disagree with engine analysis / Game Review, too.

I'd rather play a slightly worse human move, if it makes sense to me, than a superior engine move that I don't fully understand, or am not comfortable with.

Carlsen said something similar, when Maurice Ashley asked him why a won game of his wasn't "smooth", like the engine's analysis.

Carlsen was visibly annoyed, and basically replied that he doesn't care what the engine thinks.

Colle is a draw according to the latest version of Stockfish. There is more than one Colle set up including transforming into QGD.

1. Stockfish may claim "equal" but certainly enough not "a draw".

2. It does not matter at all what Stockfish claims for an human vs human game.

3. It has become very fashionable to quote Stockfish for every little nonsense someone invents.

I see what you did, there. Touché.

Thinking isn't your main strength, it seems.

Especially in the Colle-Koltanowski, white's main plan is an aggessive one: get at Black's king, and the attacking plans are quite typical- reminiscent to the Semi-Slav Meran (in reverse here).

This is just one of his countless hallucinations.

He hallucinates being Russian (he isn't), a strong player (he isn't), having a 2700 coach (he has not), an improviser (he isn't), and a strong candidate for a master title by the end of this year (he doesn't even have a Chess Federation ID yet).

The Colle-Zukertort (the modern preference for handling the Colle) has a lot of aggressive potential.

Look at white's bishops knifing down the board, aimed at black's kingside. White also keeps some flexibility ... he can exchange on c5 and play a c4 pawn thrust, to give the game more of a Queen's Gambit feel ... or he can exchange on c5 and play an e4 pawn thrust, to approach things more like a Colle-Koltanowski ... He could even plop a knight on e5 and threaten to attack black's kingside, with ideas like f4 ... Rf3 .. and Rh3..

There are a lot of ideas, in the Colle, for aggressive players. If black isn't careful, he can get steamrolled pretty fast.

To be fair, I do think black is okay, if he plays accurately. Though I believe the Colle has a lot of bite to it, if black takes it for granted.

It's like the London, in a way ... I find they both have reputations for being rather benign "systems", but they can both end up punishing black quite aggressively, if he isn't careful.

A coherent post that refutes every single point that the international master said, in one sentence!