What is the best move after F4 in the bird's opening? (as white) - Chess Forums - Page 5

sndeww

Jun 7, 2020

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#81

ThrillerFan wrote:

First game completed (out of 8) in the Bird's Opening Thematic.

Hey, nice game, I'll take notes on that orangutan idea. However, can you please show the variation? I can't really visualize

35.Nxc5+ Kc7 36.Qf4+ Kc8 37.Kh2 Rxf1 38.Qxf1 Qxd4 39.Qa6+ Kc7 40.Qxa7+ Kc6 41.Qxb8 Kxc5 42.Qa7+ Kc4 43.Qa4+ Kc3 44.Qa1+ Kc4 45.Qa4+

ThrillerFan

Jun 7, 2020

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#82

SNUDOO wrote:

ThrillerFan wrote:

First game completed (out of 8) in the Bird's Opening Thematic.

Hey, nice game, I'll take notes on that orangutan idea. However, can you please show the variation? I can't really visualize

35.Nxc5+ Kc7 36.Qf4+ Kc8 37.Kh2 Rxf1 38.Qxf1 Qxd4 39.Qa6+ Kc7 40.Qxa7+ Kc6 41.Qxb8 Kxc5 42.Qa7+ Kc4 43.Qa4+ Kc3 44.Qa1+ Kc4 45.Qa4+

I have no idea how to put notes as active moves. Simply copy the moves to notepad or something and make the moves in examine mode if you can't visualize.

sndeww

Jun 7, 2020

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#83

Ok, but I'll let you know anyways.

ThrillerFan

Jun 7, 2020

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#84

SNUDOO wrote:

Ok, but I'll let you know anyways.

Thanks for the info. I tried to go back and change that one note, but it won't let me back into the board.

It would take far less for you to set up the position after White 34 in Examine/Analysis mode and play through the few moves than it would for me to re-enter the entire game, unless you know some way to modify rather than delete and re-create.

In the future, as other Bird games finish, I'll try to put in the notes that way.

sndeww

Jun 7, 2020

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#85

ThrillerFan wrote:

SNUDOO wrote:

Ok, but I'll let you know anyways.

Thanks for the info. I tried to go back and change that one note, but it won't let me back into the board.

It would take far less for you to set up the position after White 34 in Examine/Analysis mode and play through the few moves than it would for me to re-enter the entire game, unless you know some way to modify rather than delete and re-create.

In the future, as other Bird games finish, I'll try to put in the notes that way.

yea, that's the bad thing. once you press "insert" you can't go back and change it. But if you do the same thing in chesscom's analysis board, and copy the pgn, then you can access the board again. Just found that out.

A-mateur

Jun 9, 2020

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#86

But why every variations given here are including the move 8.Nxg6? IMHO this move is risky, knowing that it opens the h-file for white. Isn't 8.Ng2 better?

IM pfren

Jun 9, 2020

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#87

First game from the thematic From at LSS. Weak opponent, 10.e3? was horrible and the rest even worse.

sndeww

Jun 9, 2020

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#88

pfren wrote:

First game from the thematic From at LSS. Weak opponent, 10.e3? was horrible and the rest even worse.

That was painful to watch. Instead of white’s d4, what about Nc3? That’s what stockfish recommends anyway

IM pfren

Jun 9, 2020

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#89

SNUDOO έγραψε:

pfren wrote:

First game from the thematic From at LSS. Weak opponent, 10.e3? was horrible and the rest even worse.

That was painful to watch. Instead of white’s d4, what about Nc3? That’s what stockfish recommends anyway

After 5.Nc3, Black has two good options: The thematic 5...Ng4 (6.g3 h5!), or 5...Nc6 followed by ...Bg4, ...Qd7 etc. The latter may transpose to a well known game between Houdini and Stockfish, played a couple of years ago. Actually this game is a little crap, but that's another story... I have reached the position of the Houdini-Stockfish game in another one which I'm playing as Black, via a different move order.

ThrillerFan

Jun 9, 2020

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#90

pfren wrote:

First game from the thematic From at LSS. Weak opponent, 10.e3? was horrible and the rest even worse.

Hehehe! Yeah, that was really shotty play by White!

IM pfren

Jun 9, 2020

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#91

ThrillerFan έγραψε:

pfren wrote:

First game from the thematic From at LSS. Weak opponent, 10.e3? was horrible and the rest even worse.

Hehehe! Yeah, that was really shotty play by White!

Certainly not memorable, I posted it for the sake of completion...

Chess_Is_Divine_555

Jun 20, 2020

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#92

ahh

Chess_Is_Divine_555

Jun 20, 2020

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#93

ThrillerFan wrote:

SNUDOO wrote:

On 1.f4, if black doesn't play ...e5 you play 1.Nf3.

There are other cases not to play 2.Nf3. For example, I even have a game on ICCF going on where my opponent played 1...b5. 1.f4 b5 should be first answered with 2.e4 Bb7 3.d3 and then 4.Nf3, 5.g3, 6.Bg2, 7.O-O, and then expand kingside.

Black has also tried a Kingside Benko with 1.f4 g5 and White should take in this case.

Against the "Sicilian", I play 2.Nf3, 3.e4, and 4.Be2, but White can also do 2.e4 and play a Grand Prix Attack.

So 2.Nf3 is not automatic against Non-1...e5.

Cryus7

Jun 26, 2020

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#94

Open up a door show me OK love you ticket to learn

rock303

Jun 26, 2020

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#95

100th post

also f4 OP

Ignarski

Jun 26, 2020

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#96

LionWillCrush wrote: What... that crap where they have sissy helmet and body armour... and strippers dancing about?!

Hate on football all you like, but I will brook no bashing of strippers dancing about.

DrSpudnik

Jun 26, 2020

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#97

Ignarski wrote:

LionWillCrush wrote: What... that crap where they have sissy helmet and body armour... and strippers dancing about?!

Hate on football all you like, but I will brook no bashing of strippers dancing about.

We need more stripper!

Chess_Is_Divine_555

Jun 29, 2020

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#98

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KabilSharma

Jun 29, 2020

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#99

SNUDOO knows the birds opening really well. I've seen him play it quite often. I would recommend you learn from his games.

Oliver_Prescott

Jun 29, 2020

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#100

e3!!!