What is the best response to scandinavian?

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chessterd5

lassus, in your diagram Qe5+ may also be an interesting idea because it would allow the Queen to move to d6. Maybe there is transposition to Qd6 theory? Idon't know, I don't play Qd6.

AngryPuffer
chessterd5 wrote:

angrypuffer, the first diagram is the Tartakower variation and black does not have to play it. also, white doesn't have to play Nxf6+. he can play Ng3 and transpose into the Fohr variation of the classical mainline with a bigger advantage. in the second diagram, black still has the move c5 which leads to complex play. black still has a game.

everyone plays the tartakower, if people played Bf5 i would play the Nc3 variation as my main weapon

and also black does not have to transpose into the classical mainline

3.c5 is even better for white as he gets an easier advantage if he just does dxc5

Kyobir
TomekPrzemek16 wrote:

Kyobir

If it's the main line, it means a lot of grandmasters have tried it over decades and found it the best.

In light of that your opinion simply doesn't matter.

Comprehendo?

lol

INTERMEDIATE LIVES MATTER

jmpchess12

@chessterd5, 3.Qe4+ is the response to 3.c4, because it either picks up a pawn (knight block and c4 hangs, bishop block and Qxg2 comes with devastation), or exchanges queens with white having misplaced pieces and a backwards d pawn. The engine actually prefers knight block and hanging the c pawn to playing the endgame although I imagine most intermediate players would rather exchange the queens.

jmoopening

@hasmukh34

Scandinavian is not annoying at all.

@GDViciousBee

chessterd5

9...,Bxe4

CaroKannEnjoyer02
Dumbluck626 wrote:
1983B-Boy wrote:
Dumbluck626 wrote:
1983B-Boy wrote:
Dumbluck626 wrote:
This is a version of the line I always try to go for. It happens in tons of variations. There are some keys to it but if you haven't seen what's great about it, here's a puzzle for you. 
 
 

WOW! There's a lot of optimism in that line!!! HAHAHAHA! I no longer play the Qxd5 variation PRECISELY because it invites you to develop pieces against it, I see A LOT of players are neglecting c6. this is going down sidelineville, but some players just don't play it to give the queen her escape route. I always thought it was flat out stupid wasting a tempo on Qa5 and another on c6, where the knight belongs, only to retreat right back where she started.

I see that retreating straight back to d8 is more popular now. I remember thinking THAT's the correct move, even back when no one was playing it 20 years ago. wasting 2 tempi just to retreat back to where you started is an abomination to this gambiteer

7.Bb5 in your variation, isn't the strongest performing move either. 7.Nb5 performs a full 9% better

REGARDLESS... tennison gambit is TRASH!

Yeah, its funny because you just need to be able to play in any line and know the key issues like c6 and when to deviate. That said, it's funny because I can do a lot more with trash than you can with whatever pristine openings you memorized and fail to fully understand. Don't hate the player hate the game. You would literally have to win over fifty games in a row without losing while increasing skill levels to get on my level let alone stay there.

How many Queens have you dropped today?

OH, so you're a self obsessed narcissist troll... got it. they make prozac for that.

I FILTER GM games out in my results. I only study 1600-2000 games and for what I lack in positional understanding because of the way my hates abstractions 157 IQ brain is wired, i make up for tactically with concepts I can VISUALIZE.

that YOU see it as an opening to troll merely shows how sad and pathetic your PEOPLE SKILLS are... and I'm a freakin' VULCAN!

I'm AM world class at playing poker... making 17th place in a 9,000 player round 1 (dropped to 57th trying to win it even though I already had my round 2 ticket), made the final table in a 200 player "best of the best" and only got KOed when I drew AA on an AJJ flop and HAD TO call the JJJAA fidiot who rivered quads. I even took a picture because I KNEW it was going to happen because of that cursed river rat math. I shouldn't have been able to PREDICT that.

otherwise, I solve NASA level problems sometimes.

that, and I'm having a HECK of a time rubbing it in astronomy trolls' faces just HOW WRONG they've ALL BEEN, popping condescending punk attitudes like yours about "math I don't understand" when their math was BUSTED ALL ALONG! HAHAHAHA! eff your magical something out of nothing big bang theories IDIOTS!

always said it was just a super massive black hole (or collection thereof) burping. THAT PERFECTLY explains galaxies that "shouldn't exist" when most of BUSTED big bang theory shouldn't exist with all of its magical unicorn crap instead of the BLATANTLY OBVIOUS.

SOME DAY, theory will include the possibility of "it's just an effing black hole!" big bang theory where the universe ALREADY EXISTED. funny how the FACTS fit MY THEORY that smug idiots liked to talk down to with their PROVEN WRONG now busted math.

golly I hate bragging to put trolls in their place. talk to masterminds... THEY know who the eff I am and how much smarter I am than all of them, in my own plain english, don't need math way... just like the time I effing RE-INVENTED lamborghini's "NACA duct" when I was 3 years old. all grandpa had to do, was explain to me that air acts just like water at speed. so, I tipped his stock car up in my head, poured water on it, and the water splashed on his "aerodynamic" hood scoop, but not when I inverted it to get it out of the way.

I might have abstractions issues with chess little boy, but I am NOT someone you want to get into a battle of the wits with... lest I have to call David Duchovny in to testify. HE knows who I am. So does Andy Sirkis (SUPER nice guy!!!), Janean Garofalo, Terry Gilliam and a couple other celebs that DON'T advertise their celebrity... I'm guessing one of them is Geena Davis, who at 163, can beat me in a TEST.

for what it's worth, Kim Kardashian DID NOT last long hanging out with the other braniacs. when she asked for my opinion of her, I didn't know a dang thing about her.

Yeah I'm the self obsessed narcissist... Tell me more about yourself. But since you decided to talk about yourself instead of the number of Queens you've dropped, I'm going to lean toward an embarrassing number for someone who is "smarter" than everyone on the planet.

This whole thread is copypasta material holy moly

gik-tally

2.e5

3.d4

3.Nc3 Nxd5 4.Nxd5 Qxd5

KieferSmith

NO NO ANYTHING BUT 2. E5

theRonster456
KieferSmith wrote:

NO NO ANYTHING BUT 2. E5

2.e5 is madness! In some countries, if a player tries this move, he is immediately declared insane and thrown into the booby-hatch.......

AngryPuffer
gik-tally wrote:

2.e5

3.d4

3.Nc3 Nxd5 4.Nxd5 Qxd5

some of us dont like the give up pawns, equality, or an easy game to black so we play exd5

newbie4711
gik-tally wrote:

2.e5

3.d4

3.Nc3 Nxd5 4.Nxd5 Qxd5

Tsk tsk from a Hartlaub Gambit (or how this thing is called) player I would have expected 1. e4 d5 2. d3 dxe4 3. Nc3 grin

NDAwari

idk

AngryPuffer
newbie4711 wrote:
gik-tally wrote:

2.e5

3.d4

3.Nc3 Nxd5 4.Nxd5 Qxd5

Tsk tsk from a Hartlaub Gambit (or how this thing is called) player I would have expected 1. e4 d5 2. d3 dxe4 3. Nc3

he must have had a brain tumor that made him love gambits for a couple of months

jmoopening

Scandinavian = defeat happy

chessterd5

a) 3...,Qa5

b) 3...,Qd6

c) 3...,Qd8

and it is too early to make any reasonable evaluation of who is better, black or white.

jmoopening

Scandinavian equals win for white. Hahahahaha 🤣😂

chessterd5
jmoopening wrote:

Scandinavian equals win for white. Hahahahaha 🤣😂

all of these games that you are posting do not prove the inferiority of the Scandinavian defense. They are merely proving that your opponents as black do not understand the defense they are playing.

adamprikler

I like to play Dunst gambit against the Scandi

jmoopening
chessterd5 wrote:
jmoopening wrote:

Scandinavian equals win for white. Hahahahaha 🤣😂

all of these games that you are posting do not prove the inferiority of the Scandinavian defense. They are merely proving that your opponents as black do not understand the defense they are playing.

My opponents doesn't understand the Scandinavian, yes. This proves that Scandinavian is bad because it's difficult to use.