What is this opening called?

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MuAlpahTheta

Hey all!

Seeing as I am not a gold or premium member (yet).  I would like to ask you what this opening is called (for white).  I've recently started playing it, with some very good results.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just ignore black's position, I just wanted to show you what the opening (for white) is like.  Thanks all for taking time to give feedback! :D

Sheldor66

This opening is called vienna game.

tmkroll

If you play the Vienna like that you have to be aware of Nxe4.

Pretty much you just have to know not to recapture the Knight, but also that if you want to keep forcing things and grab the rook in the corner you've got to be careful.
bresando

It's a pretty popular setup that can be reached via various openings (bishop game, vienna game, king gambit declined...). The main idea is to delay Nf3 so that f4 can be played at the right moment.

Since it can be reached by trasposition in various ways is does not have a proper name, you can call it vienna, bishop game or king gambit according to your own preference.

However , in chess literature it's most ofter referred to as a king gambit declined line, possibly because it was the commonest move order when the line was first developed. Nowadays i suppose it's most commonlty reached via a bishop opening move order, to avoid the KGA lines.

tmkroll

Technically whatever the move order the position has transposed to a line of the Vienna Game. It could have been a Bishop's Opening yes, and maybe that's the most common move order to reach it, but opening manuals do have this position in them and Vienna is the propper name as far as I know. If White now plays f4 it might transpose to some kind of the King's Gambit. It can't transpose to mainline King's Gambit Declined because Black doesn't have Bc5,... but it may transpose to one of Black's other ways to decline the King's Gambit after f4.

InfernoImpact

I think its the Bishop Opening:



Scottrf
bresando wrote:

It's a pretty popular setup that can be reached via various openings (bishop game, vienna game, king gambit declined...). The main idea is to delay Nf3 so that f4 can be played at the right moment.

Since it can be reached by trasposition in various ways is does not have a proper name, you can call it vienna, bishop game or king gambit according to your own preference.

However , in chess literature it's most ofter referred to as a king gambit declined line, possibly because it was the commonest move order when the line was first developed. Nowadays i suppose it's most commonlty reached via a bishop opening move order, to avoid the KGA lines.

The pawn is on f2.

bresando
Scottrf wrote:
bresando wrote:

It's a pretty popular setup that can be reached via various openings (bishop game, vienna game, king gambit declined...). The main idea is to delay Nf3 so that f4 can be played at the right moment.

Since it can be reached by trasposition in various ways is does not have a proper name, you can call it vienna, bishop game or king gambit according to your own preference.

However , in chess literature it's most ofter referred to as a king gambit declined line, possibly because it was the commonest move order when the line was first developed. Nowadays i suppose it's most commonlty reached via a bishop opening move order, to avoid the KGA lines.

The pawn is on f2.

Of course. But it will usually go to f4 (most likely on the very next move) and then it's a straight trasposition to the king gambit. Of course other moves are playable, but f4 is overwhelmingly the main idea in such lines.

(I wasn't referring to the specific diagram position anyway, since the opener asked about the setup in general. The bishop will usually be at Bc5, as you certainly know).

tmkroll

Yes we know, we were just trying to clarify.

tmkroll

Also Infernolimpact's Bishop Opening move order avoids the sharp line I posted and may be a more accurate way to reach this position, though I think Black has other options with c6-d5 in that case. ?

bresando

of course, for example 1.e4 e5 2.Bc4 Nf6 3.d3 c6 4.Nc3 d5 5.Bb3 a5!? is a critical line for the Bc4 move order. I think that choosing between the vienna and 2.Bc4 move order is largely a metter of taste.