What is your opinion on this opening?

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TheKhaotik

I just started a game against GNU Chess on Easy where a pretty odd opening took place, I'm just curious about your opinion

Drecon

Probably a setting that ignores opening theory

merchco

Good for white bad for black ????

KillaBeez

This is the Borg Defense

bigmac30

varitation of moderen defence

i think

Dekker

why would black do this?

white can just do 0-0-0 in a few moves and the black´ attack is over!

CarlMI

2. d4 is more normal.  Its not unknown, played often at the club level where Black goads White who usually responds by trying to prove g5 is a losing move.  White overextends and Black wins, partly because Black knows all the tactical tricks.  Thus black is emboldened to use it again and again.  When he loses it's because White is higher rated etc, rather than the opening is subpar.

No first move is "losing".  Unwise, inferior, etc but not losing.  Play normal chess and black will be punished in due course, generally it will take long than 10 moves.  Patience is a virtue in chess.

jswilkmd

This utterly ignores opening theory--it allows white to grab the center and to develop quickly.  Black's king-side pawn structure is weakened (much more than in a king's Indian defence).  There's a reason the Borg opening is rarely played. Game explorer here shows the best black can do with it is to draw.

bondiggity
rich wrote:

Black has the stronger position.


completely moronic. 

bondiggity
rich wrote:

No because both of whites side pawns are out. That's bad at this stage of the game.


white has a dominating control of the center and much better places for his pieces. You are extremely naive if you think black has anything near equality. 

kyleevon

this opening by black would be good to use on a rookie, it upsets the normal flow of a game

mattattack99

Good for white, but if you come across this, make sure you 0-0-0.

bondiggity
rich wrote:

Having the queen side pawn on a4 and the kingside pawn on h4 isn't that great really. But you're avatar resembles a troll.


Its an owl you buffoon. Your eyesight is worse than your chess vision. If you are so convinced that this is a great position for black, challenge me to a game and I'll gladly play the white end. 

bondiggity
rich wrote:

I have my own way of playing chess, neither white or black is ideal for me. I read about that owl of Wikipedia you moron. It says Internet trolls will respond with O RLY, to a topic that is obvious to get on peoples nerves. And will sometimes post different variations of that pic; with sillier things put on the owl like hats and glasses and stuff.


"Some internet forum trolls may also reply "O RLY?" in response to a lengthy or overly detailed post."

 

That is the only mention of the word troll in the article. Good job failing at reading. 

Daniel3

Black has totally neglected his development, except for his Bishop, and has done little to control the center. White can and should be able to win easily.

The object of the Opening is to achieve control of the center with pieces or pawns, to develop your entire army, to get your King to safety, and to develop your plans for the rest of the game. Black has neglected these objectives, and his game is bad. 

Anything short of giving away material to Black will win.

Drayr

You guys are hilarious. Grow up.

diemking

it doesn't matter if the opening is unusual or even favors white, if you give a weak reply from lack of knowledge you'll get crushed

the borg and grob opening family is supposed to give the user an intense flank attack no?

bondiggity
rich wrote:
bondiggity wrote:
rich wrote:

I have my own way of playing chess, neither white or black is ideal for me. I read about that owl of Wikipedia you moron. It says Internet trolls will respond with O RLY, to a topic that is obvious to get on peoples nerves. And will sometimes post different variations of that pic; with sillier things put on the owl like hats and glasses and stuff.


"Some internet forum trolls may also reply "O RLY?" in response to a lengthy or overly detailed post."

 

That is the only mention of the word troll in the article. Good job failing at reading. 


 You have it as you're picture permanently though. I suggest you stop being a troll and change it to something that bit better.


explain to me why having this as my picture makes me a troll. Do you even know what troll means or do you just define it as annoying. Or do you define it as saying ORLY to elaborate arguments (which you have never presented), in which case I have never responded with that.

 

To deliberately post false or controversial messages to gain attention for the sake of attention, usually from people who genuinely want to help. The act of posting false messages is called trolling.

 

I dare you to find posts of mine which fit this criteria. On the other hand it will be quite easy for me to find posts of yours, for example: saying that a bishop = knight = rook and that a grandmaster supports your argument. No proof, no genuine help, deliberately false, controversial, and all it did was attract attention.

 

Rich, you are the troll, so how about you take care of your own business before giving me advice. 

bondiggity
rich wrote:

Yes troll means someone who spams, and makes uselesscomments. But seriuosly that picture of yours is also annoying.

 

By the way I did read that in a book. I no longer have the book I had it for a while; but it had to go back. I am no troll Rook16, and cheater_1 are you're best examples of a Internet troll.


explain to me how I spam or make useless comments. I'm not the one with 13k+ forums comments, I use mine sparingly. 

goldendog
rich wrote:

Yes troll means someone who spams, and makes uselesscomments. But seriuosly that picture of yours is also annoying.

 

By the way I did read that in a book. I no longer have the book I had it for a while; but it had to go back. I am no troll Rook16, and cheater_1 are you're best examples of a Internet troll.


 Lol!

You'll never find that ghost book rich. It doesn't exist and your excuse making is feeble and pathetic. A world champ says n=b=r   lol!!!!!

It is ironic that you call someone a troll. No one on chess.com has been less constructive with a mass of posts than you. 13k+ and so little to show for it.