It depends on what you want from your opening.
You mentioned that you find the QGD boring, but there are so many variations in the QGD that I’m afraid I don’t know which one you’re talking about. I’m assuming the 3… Nf6 4… Be7 QGD, which is very commonly recommended to newer players, despite being incredibly passive and uninspiring, but I could be mistaken.
So I have three questions for you: what style of opening are you looking for, what do you currently play as White and as Black against e4, and do you want to try to find a Queen’s Gambit that works or would you prefer we stick to Indian Games for simplicity’s sake.
What openings are good against 1d4
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Ethan_Brollier wrote:
It depends on what you want from your opening.
You mentioned that you find the QGD boring, but there are so many variations in the QGD that I’m afraid I don’t know which one you’re talking about. I’m assuming the 3… Nf6 4… Be7 QGD, which is very commonly recommended to newer players, despite being incredibly passive and uninspiring, but I could be mistaken.
So I have three questions for you: what style of opening are you looking for, what do you currently play as White and as Black against e4, and do you want to try to find a Queen’s Gambit that works or would you prefer we stick to Indian Games for simplicity’s sake.
My main opening agaisnt 1.e4 is the Najdorf sicillian but since no one goes in a open sicilian with me I stick with the caro because I dont like to play things like the allapin. I play the 3Nf6 4Be7 QGD as you said and its really boring. Are slav openings dinamic and offer a lot of attacking chances? If not then I might stick with the Indian Games.
Aug 9, 2023
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If you play the caro you can try slav setup against d4, going for the reverse london system. I have made a lichess study on this repertoire(since I was a caro player myself) https://lichess.org/study/8PraJrbc or you can thy the anglo-slav which is a lion defence with other move order(c6 d6 Qc7 Nd7)
lassus_dinnao wrote:
If you play the caro you can try slav setup against d4, going for the reverse london system. I have made a lichess study on this repertoire(since I was a caro player myself) https://lichess.org/study/8PraJrbc or you can thy the anglo-slav which is a lion defence with other move order(c6 d6 Qc7 Nd7)
I'll check it out ty
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I like the NID/QID/Bogo approach (Nimzo-Indian, Bogo-Indian, Queen's Indian). It's actually 3 different defenses that work together to combine into a defensive system. But it can be quite tricky to learn, due to its transpositional nature.
A simpler approach (a single defensive setup) would be the King's Indian Defense. You can essentially play it against anything White plays (except for 1.e4). Even though your structure will remain consistent, there will still be varying ideas that you'll want to learn, against different White setups.
Or, if you want a more double-edged, imbalanced approach, you could give the Dutch (1...f5) a try. There are 3 important setups that you'll want to learn with the Dutch: the Classical, the Leningrad, and the Stonewall. Learning all three of these is important, so that you'll have the ability transpose to any of them, as needed - depending on how White plays.
Also, just FYI: the QGD has some rather dynamic options. I've found that players who are bored from it tend to not be aware of its other variations (the Orthodox isn't the only way to play it ...). There's the Cambridge Springs (an early ...Qa5), the Tartakower (an early ...b6), and so on ...
IronSteam1 wrote:
I like the NID/QID/Bogo approach (Nimzo-Indian, Bogo-Indian, Queen's Indian). It's actually 3 different defenses that work together to combine into a defensive system. But it can be quite tricky to learn, due to its transpositional nature.
A simpler approach (a single defensive setup) would be the King's Indian Defense. You can essentially play it against anything White plays (except for 1.e4). Even though your structure will remain consistent, there will still be varying ideas that you'll want to learn, against different White setups.
Or, if you want a more double-edged, imbalanced approach, you could give the Dutch (1...f5) a try. There are 3 important setups that you'll want to learn with the Dutch: the Classical, the Leningrad, and the Stonewall. Learning all three of these is important, so that you'll have the ability transpose to any of them, as needed - depending on how White plays.
Also, just FYI: the QGD has some rather dynamic options. I've found that players who are bored from it tend to not be aware of it's other variations (the Orthodox isn't the only way to play it ...). There's the Cambridge Springs (an early ...Qa5), the Tartakower (an early ...b6), and so on ...
Thanks so much for taking time for answering. I think i will take a look at the KID since my friend told me he could help me out understanding the positions out of it and making a plan in the middlegame.
Aug 10, 2023
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Hi! I think you could try the Modern Defense (1...g6). If you are interested in it check out the following post about my experience with the Modern on my blog : https://www.chess.com/blog/maafernan/opening-repertoire-the-modern-defense
Good luck!
The Englund Gambit a very tactical way to trap your opponent in 8 moves
Ibrahimkashif123 wrote:
The Englund Gambit a very tactical way to trap your opponent in 8 moves
the englund gambit is refuted
the kings indian is a good way to fight for an advantage as black. with there being many ideas and attacking chances for both sides
these are the basic lines in the kid
but you can also play grunfeld agianst everything (op)
theres also the brick man attack but you can do your own research
AngryPuffer wrote:
the kings indian is a good way to fight for an advantage as black. with there being many ideas and attacking chances for both sides
these are the basic lines in the kid
but you can also play grunfeld agianst everything (op)
theres also the brick man attack but you can do your own research
wich do you think is better grunfeld or KID
Theotrop wrote:
AngryPuffer wrote:
the kings indian is a good way to fight for an advantage as black. with there being many ideas and attacking chances for both sides
these are the basic lines in the kid
but you can also play grunfeld agianst everything (op)
theres also the brick man attack but you can do your own research
wich do you think is better grunfeld or KID
with the grunfeld you must know how to play agressively and you must know how to be 1-3 pawns down with tons of compensation
the kings indian is much more solid but you have to know how to survive a few of whites most attacking lines/ know how to play the more positional lines like the fianchetto variation or the exchange
AngryPuffer wrote:
Theotrop wrote:
AngryPuffer wrote:
the kings indian is a good way to fight for an advantage as black. with there being many ideas and attacking chances for both sides
these are the basic lines in the kid
but you can also play grunfeld agianst everything (op)
theres also the brick man attack but you can do your own research
wich do you think is better grunfeld or KID
with the grunfeld you must know how to play agressively and you must know how to be 1-3 pawns down with tons of compensation
the kings indian is much more solid but you have to know how to survive a few of whites most attacking lines/ know how to play the more positional lines like the fianchetto variation or the exchange
oh. Do you play any of them?
i play the grunfeld agianst d4 but i used to play the benoni alot and the kings indian is kinda like a benoni/grunfeld hybrid sometimes
That’s what I figured. If you like the Najdorf but not the anti-Sicilians then the Queen’s Gambit probably isn’t for you, as both sides have very passive high scoring options, so you can’t guarantee an aggressive game. This includes the Slav, unfortunately, as White always has access to the Exchange Slav. I’d recommend one of the Indian Games then, in particular, the KID would be my recommendation.
the exchange variation killed my love for the KID its so boring
Hey I've been trying to find a suitable opening against 1d4. I was thinking about maybe a Nf6 opening since all my friends play the nimzo and the KID. If it's a Nf6 opening Wich one would be best. And if not maybe I should emphasize my knowledge on the QGD Wich I already know a bit of (but I find it quite boring).
Id like to learn an opening that I can know for my whole life and that I could add knowledge through as I continue my chess journey.