DrSpudnik wrote:
Uh oh, look out, here comes the ongoing fight into another thread!
The chicken vs peter griffin was epic!
What Oppening is Most Effective?
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Aug 1, 2015
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#23
THE_YOLOSWAGGER wrote:
How could the Ruy Lopez be a threat?
He meant thread, not threat.
I'll try to determine effectiveness with this method: 1*(percentage of white winning) + 0,5*(percentage of drawn games) = score
Chesstempo's opening explorer recommends next for white:
- 1. c4 among "normal openings" with a score of 55,8
- 1. h4 with only 17 games played but an incredible score of 58,85
365chess:
- 1. Nf3 with 55,4. 1.c4 comes second, I think.
SonOfGaul, if you like open positions, and such. You can try the Grunfeld. You can also just go for the traditional queens gambit declined. Ofc white can play colle/london system, but you shouldn't worry too much about that. I myself prefer the benoni, but hey that's just me.
Aug 1, 2015
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#26
Fiveofswords wrote:
Dirty_Sandbagger wrote:
ThrillerFan wrote:
Find a day where you have the entire day to kill, and go thru the thread under Openings "why is ruy lopez considered the strongest" and you will get a good idea of how mentally insane and socially ignorant FoS really is!
He wasn't always like this, or at least his posts used to show more restraint.
But looking at the Ruy Lopez threat and now this one I am starting to wonder if he's not talking about himself when he talks about that breakdown in here...
no its not me...although it may have helped put me in a bad mood. anyway the assault of reb and his minions would probably piss anyone off.
A thicker skin, a more accurate self-assessment, and an effort to be polite and you very well could find yourself among Reb's "minions" pointing out facile nonsense in someone else's posts.
Gunvald123 wrote:
NewArdweaden hat geschrieben:
I'll try to determine effectiveness with this method: 1*(percentage of white winning) + 0,5*(percentage of drawn games) = score
Chesstempo's opening explorer recommends next for white:
- 1. c4 among "normal openings" with a score of 55,8
- 1. h4 with only 17 games played but an incredible score of 58,85
365chess:
- 1. Nf3 with 55,4. 1.c4 comes second, I think.
but you do realize you pseudo-math is a bit flawed due to the fact that not all participants in the games of those databases are of the same playing strength? you'd have to weigh in the average elo of all players playing a certain move in a certain position for this to have any significance to start with. I'm also interested how you handle the statistical influence of lines that were played a long time ago but are refuted nowadays.
One doesn't need to be a Sherlock to know that. Seriously, you might be a Swede, but I don't think that even you would go in such depth to post a simple comment in chess.com thread. 
However, if you wish, I assumed that* the ratings of players and years of the games was distributed equally in all openings. Hence, they all had the same conditions and can be compared.
Seriously, man.
*I didn't actually - I'm just saying that to satisfy you.
Aug 1, 2015
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#28
Fiveofswords wrote:
an ability to recognize which comments are facile and maybe you could do that. instead you are just an ass to the people being reasonable.
You're like a parrot who turns every offer of help into an insult sent back.
Seriously, dude. Take your chill pill. Your chess skill may not be master level (nor is mine), but it's solid enough that you can make a positive contribution. Stop being so belligerent. If you feel attacked, turn the other cheek.
Your perception that everyone was attacking you stems from your haste to label everyone who disagreed with you an "idiot," "moron," or some other original term of derision. That's not the definition of reasonable discourse.
Aug 1, 2015
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#29
Hey Jace. I struggled with this myself until recently. As others have said, the most important part is to develop your pieces. A rule of thumb is to try to bring out your knights, bishops, and queen, castle, and thereby lock your rooks, in the first ten moves. As white, I've been playing e4, and if I can, I'll go on into either the Four Knights or the Italian opening. As black, I play king's pawn when I can, but sometimes my opponent plays d4. In that case, I've been using the Horwitz defense, which generally becomes a French defense position. Hope this helps. 
what do you mean effective? maybe the Snipper, one shot one kill
To the amatuer, there are a thousand answers.
To the master, there is only one.
I read that somewhere, & I take it to mean the only choise is the one that works. Pick an opening or openings that worksfor you & just play. But never go to war with a weapon you don't trust. You may win, you may lose but when it happens stop & ask yourself did I win or lose this game because of the opening I played? Or, was it a positional or tactical error I made after the opening. The opening is merely an avenue to get to a position you like to play. It is the RIGHT choise at each juncture of the game that whens games.
Parnon wrote:
Jace, it's really a matter of personal preference - don't worry too much about openings at your level, just try to develop your pieces toward the center of the board and make logical moves. I'd personally recommend playing simple openings that involve quick development and control of the center instead of hypermodern or other complicated systems. Here's an example of a reasonable way to play:
that one looks pretty strong,it protects the middle very well... I will try it.
I had the same question. I play the Ruy Lopez when I can because it develops my piece quickly and prevents most of the newb mates which I fell too many times for. When I play black, I have no idea what I am doing. I guess I try to react to whatever white is doing while developing my pieces.
I will take the advice to study the Italian and Spanish openings though, seems like good practical advice.
Fiveofswords wrote:
This is a typical attitude on the Chess.com forum yeah.
heres ziryabs logic: i know all the top players agree with me. five doesnt agree with me. ergo five arrogantly denies the superiority of top players (and me...since i am their ambassador to chess.com forum)
Tom_Brady_SB49_Champ wrote:
can i be a retard too
( In my best " Highlander" impersonation voice, " No, there can be only one!"
Aug 5, 2015
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#37
Hate to DEFLATE your pretensions, chessterd5, but Mr. Brady has a pretty good claim.
Aug 6, 2015
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#38
chessterd5 wrote:
Tom_Brady_SB49_Champ wrote:
can i be a retard too
( In my best " Highlander" impersonation voice, " No, there can be only one!"
lol
hey guys just give ideas.dont argue pls :l
Find a day where you have the entire day to kill, and go thru the thread under Openings "why is ruy lopez considered the strongest" and you will get a good idea of how mentally insane and socially ignorant FoS really is!
He wasn't always like this, or at least his posts used to show more restraint.
But looking at the Ruy Lopez threat and now this one I am starting to wonder if he's not talking about himself when he talks about that breakdown in here...