Oh, the common Qd6 Nb5 variation?
Qa5 is main line.
Say ello tu the pawn at d5 and eat it. And be ready to be eaten by the queen, prepare yurr knight to chassse tat queen.
The queen is scared of the knight and decides to put whether on a5 or d8. you go d4 and white's better if yur opponent is weaker and black's better if yuo are weaker than your opponent.
I don't know, but black hasn't lost a tempo unless he chooses to with his following move. Nc3 simply regainst the tempo lost by exd5.
Hmm I understand your point, I was trying to demonstrate that there was no tempo gain when you do an aggresive charge against the queen, there is only a regain as you say, so no hard feelings?
You my friend, are just confusing Scandi with Parham Opening. This is not a dubious move that is going to pe punished, a valid defense.
What? That's just silly, of course they do.
Ok I will grab some quotes from My System:
A pawn move must not in itself be regarded as a developing move, but merely as an aid in development.
Accordingly we force our opponent to lose time if we make a developing move which at the same time attacks a piece which he has already moved.
Since 1...d5 is not a developing move, it doesn't count as a tempo loss if White is forced to capture. But after 2...Qxd5 3.Nc3 White has developed a piece and attacks a piece that has already moved.
I can't find where I read about the queen thing but I am sure that there are masters that said that queen moves aren't developing moves.
Let me try to explain (hopefully) a little more clearly:
On move #2 white moves his pawn a second time when he could have developed a piece. He has given up a tempo in not doing so.
If you don't count d5 as a developing move, but an aid in development then nor is e4, and tempo are still level!
You should get a diamond membership and watch this beginners video on counting development. http://www.chess.com/video/player/development-part-i-counting2 Queen moves are definitely development, as they aid the connection of your rooks, which is the completion of development.
Without getting into the tempo debate, I do think 3. Nc3 is the best response to the line given in the original post.
Black responds the capture by developing a queen. Why a queen development isn't a development?
I can't find any readings on it but my understanding is that an early move of the queen does not count as development because it can't contend with the other pieces early in the game.
It counts as development, it just risks the loss of a tempo itself as demonstrated by 3. Nc3....
The queen is developed. The issue is whether it is well developed. There is no issue that white's knight is well placed.
Otherwise the position is asymetrical with each side having different half open files. Had white made an error I'd say his more exposed king was a disadvantage. But he hasn't.
White has an advantage because Black's queen is developed early, but this does not constitute a gain of tempo. If the position started missing White's e-pawn and Black's d-pawn, and it were Black to move first, 1...Qd5 would be a terrible move. The Queen must move again in most lines of this opening, during which part White will effectively be up a tempo in addition to having the first move.
3.Nc3 does indeed gain a tempo BACK, but White can gain even more tempi by meeting 3...Qa5 with 4.b4!? at the cost of a pawn, and end up up on time, although the sacrifice is probably not the best way to proceed. IM pfren doesn't seem to value White's open b-file in that line by comparison to the 3...Qd6 variation.
I think White has a nice advantage in the main lines of the Scandinavian and that it is a relatively poor choice of Black opening, but that's just my opinion. At the beginner (<2000) level, it's probably a better choice than the Sicilian as long as you know not to play 3...Qc6 (the third most common move in my experience. 3...Qa5, 3...Qd6, 3...Qc6, 3...Qe5+, 3...Qe6+, 3...Qd8 being the moves I see most often)
Well, I was just suggesting that the Sicilian Defense is inappropriate for anyone at beginner OR <2000 level. And online chess ratings are pretty meaningless, meant federation rating.
I guess in looking at it again I would consider the queen move a bad move. For a few reasons:
First and foremost I think the rule don't develop your queen early is axiomatic and if you break it you are just asking for trouble.
Second if you do move the queen out early you have to treat it like a king. If someone attacks the queen then you are forced to move it. No matter the postion because the it is only the third move of the game.
Third while I do think the queen being pushed out is a development move I don't like it if the best move, when attacked, is to return her to her original square.
Finally,3. nc3 lets white get a head start on the minor piece development which in my opinion is far more important than having a developed queen-- at least early on.
Wow a lot of comments was written during that time, maybe I should have quoted