what the most aggresive opening you guys recommend?

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divljipirat

i like king's gambit but i'm losing a lot on it against players that now how to defend it properly, i played a danish gambit but its too risky, what should i try next.

PrawnEatsPrawn

Instead of changing what you play, why not improve at what you play?

divljipirat

trust me i know everything about this openings: KG and danish as well.

TheCBossGambit

italian game: evan's gambit (...3. Bc5) and fried liver attack (...3. Nf6) are both very aggressive

dadam

The Blackmar Diemer Gambit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackmar-Diemer_Gambit

and

http://www.jeremysilman.com/chess_bits_pieces/110103_blackmar_dmr_gmbt.html

 

For YOU, not for me! Tongue out

vinco_interdum

Two suggestions:

1. Google Bobby Fischer's article "A Bust to the King's Gambit" 

2. Pick up a copy of "Dangerous Weapons: 1.e4 e5"

http://www.amazon.com/Dangerous-Weapons-Dazzle-Opponents-Everyman/dp/1857445422/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1299798450&sr=8-1

Elroch

Muzio gambit - drawish. Danish gambit - drawish. Probably best to play the Lopez.

PrawnEatsPrawn
divljipirat wrote:

trust me i know everything about this openings: KG and danish as well.


 

I find it difficult to trust that an intermediate player knows everything about a monstrous opening like the King's Gambit. I've been playing it to the exclusion of all others for over 30 years but I have barely scratched the surface.

Time to take another look.

Conquistador

Exchange slav-really lights your pants on fire.

mrguy888
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Dragec
divljipirat wrote:

trust me i know everything about this openings: KG and danish as well.


Well, when looking at your games, it seems that you cant handle Falkbeer properly, so it appears that you do not know everything.

Nimzowitch countergambit 3...c6, proper response is 4.Nc3 , not 4.Nf3. Cool

chessmaster12344

I reckon it's Sicilian:

And Kings and Queens Gambit:
Jadeite

A few of your suggestions in the KG look suspect to me. 2..d6 should really be met with Nf3, or at least Bc4 or Nc3. 3...qh4+ is ugly for white. Same goes for 2...exf4-3.Nf3 or 3.Bc4 is best and 3. d4? should be met with ...qh4+ as well. 

Rogalentis

lol chessmaster12344

your KG one is dubious

Accepted:

3...Qh4+ is realy bad for white

instead play 3.Nf3 for white

4...Nd5 saves the pawn

 

 

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Shivsky
echecs06 wrote:
PrawnEatsPrawn wrote:

Instead of changing what you play, why not improve at what you play?


 +1


+1

BirdsDaWord

Try something else for a while, then come back. Try the Halloween Gambit 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Nxe5!?  lots of fun.  Eventually, come back to the King's Gambit with a fresh look and new ideas.  Plus, study ideas you don't know, look at KG games you have never seen.  Try that first.  

divljipirat
Dragec wrote:
divljipirat wrote:

trust me i know everything about this openings: KG and danish as well.


Well, when looking at your games, it seems that you cant handle Falkbeer properly, so it appears that you do not know everything.

Nimzowitch countergambit 3...c6, proper response is 4.Nc3 , not 4.Nf3.


 thats true i suck at falkbeer i havent studyed it that hard besides borko is a lot better that i am. and i know i moda a mistake i analized those games later. 

Fromper
MrBlunderful wrote:

I think a very interesting thing is to choose the quietest repertoire you can possibly find.  Lines that keep a maximum number of pieces and pawns on the board till the midgame.

Then, starting about move fifteen, play like your pants are on fire, and nobody will put them out unless you mate the opponent's king by move 30.


While I know you're kidding, I actually kinda agree with part of your advice. If someone feels that they've peaked in what they can accomplish as a player using wild gambits, then it's time to try the opposite approach - quieter openings. Switching to a completely opposite style to what you're used to is a good learning experience.

I used to be a very quiet player who didn't really know how to attack at all, and I got stuck around 1400 USCF for over a year. Then I switched to a "nothing but wild gambits" repertoire to learn to be more aggressive, dropped 100 rating points in the first 6 months, then came back stronger than ever and gained 200 rating points in 2 tournaments to break 1500. I've since switched to main line openings that aren't insanely wild, but also not extremely quiet, and I'm rated around 1700 USCF.

My point is that getting out of your comfort zone once in a while is a good thing. But don't go switching openings every few weeks, either. Whatever you pick, stick with it long enough to learn it properly, which will be at least 6 months of regular play.

Sofademon

To the OP- It says your FIDE rating is 1600 in your profile.  If that is the case you are stronger player than I am.  However, having acknowledged that, you can't blame your opening repertoire for your losses, nor can you expect to greatly increase your results by changing openings.  Amatures spend much to much time looking at their openings and too little time on just about everything else.  It is unlikely that a 1600 player is loosing in the opening.  At that level you are very likely not blundering so badly that you have ruined the game from the start, but also a that level the small advantages that come about if both side play the opening reasonably well are not decisive by any means.  For high level ranked players, maybe, for 1600 players no.

Rather than bail out of an opening system you claim to know well, start to analyse your games in detail and figure out why you are loosing.  Are you running into superior tactics?  Does the game come to an endgame you don't know how to handle?  Are there positional/strategic themese that come up repeatedly that your opponents are using to an advanatage?  Figure out what isn't working, and then work on fixing that.  I will adimit, that there are fairly few grandmasters that play the King's Gambit against e5, but some do, so its uncommon but not fully unsound at hight level play.  For 1600 level play it should do nicely.  Some people think the Ruy Lopez/Spanish is good "training" that all players should have under their belt, but just changing over to the Spanish without looking at the other elements of your games will not give you better scores.

madhatter5

Latvian gambit as black, KG as white. Can't go wrong!