Interesting. I don't agree with your choices though, which I guess is good because that is why you posted this. I would argue that there are four moves that give White an advantage. I would say that 1.g3 is your "Pie rule" move and that every other possible first move gives Black an advantage.
Of course this isn't true from a practical standpoint because of a person's familiarity with their opening repertoire, hence why the databases gave you your answers.
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I just don't understand what you wrote.
"The first player makes a move as white, and then the second can choose either to keep playing as black, or to swap colours and let the first player play as black."
How could black let white play as black? Since white has a half move advantage it is just not possible. White can choose to play as black, but black can never choose to play as white unless white allows it.
Fiveofswords, you're mistaken. you're trying to think of moves to make the position equal without regard to whos move it is. White's first move doesn't need to weaken anything to make Black better because it will be Black to move. Basically any move that doesn't challenge the centre and Black is better because it is his move.
If, however, you did understand correctly, then you're just horribly horribly wrong.
I also didn't understand what the OP was originally getting at, so there is no need for troll-like comments against people who didn't understand the initial post's description. It might have been clearer if the OP had said that the board would then be *physically turned around* for the other player, rather than saying "swap colours," which leaves open the possible interpretation that he meant playing a reversed opening like the Reversed Sicilian or Reversed French, which is a common theme, and is what I originally thought he meant.
What is wrong with everyody on this thread? First of all, the OP was very clear in the explanation of his question. I don't understand how it is confusing anybody. Secondly, why do people keep talking about how much they dislike the idea of using this system to play a game. In no way did Thikron suggest that he was proposing any kind of evolution of chess. He just wanted to hear people's thoughts regarding his question. Is it really that difficult?
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No, he physically means "Swap Colors".
You don't just "swap colours." If you swapped the colors of the units, you'd have your king on the wrong side of the board and the queen on the wrong colored square. You'd also have to swap colors of the squares, but then your king would still be on the wrong side of the board. But the original post didn't specify the colors of what things were being swapped. If the OP is as young as his photo suggests, he has probably never even heard of reversed openings like the Reversed Sicilian, so he didn't realize he needed to be more careful with his description, so he's probably mystified at why so many people misinterpreted his description and question.
As for the idea itself, I think it's interesting, and I like interesting new perspectives on chess. I won't speculate on whether it's a *useful* idea, though, since I don't really have an opinion at this point.
No, he physically means "Swap Colors".
You don't just "swap colours." If you swapped the colors of the units, you'd have your king on the wrong side of the board and the queen on the wrong colored square. You'd also have to swap colors of the squares, but then your king would still be on the wrong side of the board. But the original post didn't specify the colors of what things were being swapped. If the OP is as young as his photo suggests, he has probably never even heard of reversed openings like the Reversed Sicilian, so he didn't realize he needed to be more careful with his description, so he's probably mystified at why so many people misinterpreted his description and question.
As for the idea itself, I think it's interesting, and I like interesting new perspectives on chess. I won't speculate on whether it's a *useful* idea, though, since I don't really have an opinion at this point.
Yes, you do physically swap colors. That's what he means.
In other words, you are assigned White, you play 1.e4. Black now has the option to demand that you get off your fat rear end and sit where he is sitting, and he will plop his fat butt down in your chair and play White! The position is rnbqkbnr/pppppppp/8/8/4P3/8/PPPP1PPP/RNBQKBNR, your move, you now have BLACK!
A good way to divide a pie between two people fairly is for one person to divide the pie into two and for the other person to choose which of the two bits they'd like. Then it's in the first person's interest to divide the pie as fairly as possible, since they know they're going to end up with the smaller piece.
We can apply this to chess to try and eliminate the first move advantage. The first player makes a move as white, and then the second can choose either to keep playing as black, or to swap colours and let the first player play as black.
It's therefore in the first player's best interests to play a move that will make the position as even as possible. If they play a move like 1.e4 then their opponent will choose to play with the white pieces and they will be stuck with a (small) disadvantage. But if they play something like 1. f3 then their opponent will choose to carry on playing black and they will be at a (large) disadvantage too.
Based on the Chess365 opening database, my guess is that the best move is something like 1. b3 or 1. Nc3 that leave the position fairly open, but it would be interesting to hear if anyone else has any ideas.