why d4 is better than e4

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Musikamole wrote:

e4 is better. d4 is easier. The d-pawn is well defended by the queen, whereas the e-pawn is sent out all alone, doing the work of a martyr.  It's a no brainer as to which one is easier.

Why, 1.e4 could be considered a gambit opening. 


e4 fails to the french. don't believe me,  challenge as white and play e4. then send another challenge  as black. i'll play d4

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ajian wrote:
Musikamole wrote:

e4 is better. d4 is easier. The d-pawn is well defended by the queen, whereas the e-pawn is sent out all alone, doing the work of a martyr.  It's a no brainer as to which one is easier.

Why, 1.e4 could be considered a gambit opening. 


e4 fails to the french. don't believe me,  challenge as white and play e4. then send another challenge  as black. i'll play d4


 

I play the French myself all the time. It's not a refutation to 1.e4 in the slightest, otherwise no one would be playing 1.e4 at all. In an age full of computer analyses, why are we STILL playing 1.e4? It's obviously not refuted, dubious, or even as questionable as you make it out to be.

d4 is protected, while e4 opens diagnals on the first turn. Pick whichever you like best. They both have to deal with nasty defenses.

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KefkaKGA wrote:
ajian wrote:
Musikamole wrote:

e4 is better. d4 is easier. The d-pawn is well defended by the queen, whereas the e-pawn is sent out all alone, doing the work of a martyr.  It's a no brainer as to which one is easier.

Why, 1.e4 could be considered a gambit opening. 


e4 fails to the french. don't believe me,  challenge as white and play e4. then send another challenge  as black. i'll play d4


 

I play the French myself all the time. It's not a refutation to 1.e4 in the slightest, otherwise no one would be playing 1.e4 at all. In an age full of computer analyses, why are we STILL playing 1.e4? It's obviously not refuted, dubious, or even as questionable as you make it out to be.

d4 is protected, while e4 opens diagnals on the first turn. Pick whichever you like best. They both have to deal with nasty defenses.


 you probrably see that in the french defense, white is barely hanging on to d4 and e5, while black is attacking them, tying down all of white's pieces. unless you don't play the shown variation.

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ajian wrote:
KefkaKGA wrote:
ajian wrote:
Musikamole wrote:

e4 is better. d4 is easier. The d-pawn is well defended by the queen, whereas the e-pawn is sent out all alone, doing the work of a martyr.  It's a no brainer as to which one is easier.

Why, 1.e4 could be considered a gambit opening. 


e4 fails to the french. don't believe me,  challenge as white and play e4. then send another challenge  as black. i'll play d4


 

I play the French myself all the time. It's not a refutation to 1.e4 in the slightest, otherwise no one would be playing 1.e4 at all. In an age full of computer analyses, why are we STILL playing 1.e4? It's obviously not refuted, dubious, or even as questionable as you make it out to be.

d4 is protected, while e4 opens diagnals on the first turn. Pick whichever you like best. They both have to deal with nasty defenses.


 you probrably see that in the french defense, white is barely hanging on to d4 and e5, while black is attacking them, tying down all of white's pieces. unless you don't play the shown variation.


Which variation? The one where White plays very poorly and doesn't know how to deal with the French Defense?

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How is that a gambit?

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He probably tried to do the Icelandic gambit, then got carried away.

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both sides have 7 pawns.

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I prefer opening with a3, just to keep my low rating.

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the worst post of chess.com so far

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"The future belongs to players who play both d4 and e4" (Shereshevsky)

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I like H4 four and one half. Straight work a negro to the ropes on that opener

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1.e4!!! is best.  I won't go into the long variations here, but white has a forced mate in 104.

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maybe because of this?

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gmt769 wrote:

1.e4!!! is best.  I won't go into the long variations here, but white has a forced mate in 104.


 send a message showing me the forced mate

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Why c4 is better than e4 or d4: I WINS WITH IT!!! Laughing

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Unfortunately I don't know whether anybody has noted that 1.e4 needlessly leaves a pawn en prise, which can be exploited by 1...Nf6! Also, the Sicilian is a good way of combating 1.e4 People play 1.e4 if they like draws, with their boring Italian Knight tours and with their clock barely even moved after 35 moves of instant ruy Lopez theory that neither player even understands. If you want to be able to actually think in a game of chess, then you should open with 1.d4.
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nathangittens wrote:
People play 1.e4 if they like draws...If you want to be able to actually think in a game of chess, then you should open with 1.d4.

I play 1.e4 because I like open games with sharp tactical motifs.  Whatever opening a player chooses, playing by rote is probably not the best approach.

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nathangittens wrote:
Unfortunately I don't know whether anybody has noted that 1.e4 needlessly leaves a pawn en prise, which can be exploited by 1...Nf6! Also, the Sicilian is a good way of combating 1.e4 People play 1.e4 if they like draws, with their boring Italian Knight tours and with their clock barely even moved after 35 moves of instant ruy Lopez theory that neither player even understands. If you want to be able to actually think in a game of chess, then you should open with 1.d4.

If you don't like the Ruy Lopez...you can play something else, like the Scotch, KIA, King's Gambit, etc. It's your own fault if 1.e4 always ends up drawish for you.

Either way, 1.d4 also has deal with nasty defenses. I hear 1.d4 players usually hate the Nimzo and will actually avoid it.

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I dont think d4 is better than e4 in chess openings. Im a low rated player but i still believe that it is positional and sound tactical play that really determines the outcome of any chess game.

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The real question is whether 1. a4 is superior to 1. h3.