Why lower rated blitz players love hypermodern openings?

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I have always been puzzled by these numbers. In 1450 standard, people use d4 d5 and e4 e5 most often. Occasionally I met King's Indian or modern defences. On 1550 I have encountered an increased rate of King's Indian defence and other hypermodern openings, but not that extreme. On blitz 1200, however, about half players I encounter play hypermodern openings. Sometimes these openings are really weird, but that happens. But... Why in such a brutal scale? I have mixed results against stuff like that, but... Why so many hypermodernists? Not that I mind, because while on standard time control I hate hypermodern defences, on blitz and bullets I have no time to be angry. But still... It is just insane, that difference.

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I think it may look hyper-modern but there is no theory or reasoning behind it deeper than the thought that if one doesn't advance pawns in the center, one can't lose them as quickly.

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Basically sooner or later they would advance their pawns forward. But it is still kind of boring, encountering so many double fianchettoes...

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Becouse they are fan of Fisher/Kasparov. Also they know only like 2 openings with black and with g6 they reply to anything basically - easier for them. Just launch Harry H pawn and they will lose.

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notmtwain wrote:

I think it may look hyper-modern but there is no theory or reasoning behind it deeper than the thought that if one doesn't advance pawns in the center, one can't lose them as quickly.

Laughing 

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AIM-AceMove wrote:

Becouse they are fan of Fisher/Kasparov. Also they know only like 2 openings with black and with g6 they reply to anything basically - easier for them. Just launch Harry H pawn and they will lose.

I see, and what about those who play like that as White :D

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most people play e4 e5 at lower levels you probably just notice hypermodern so much because you hate it and it sticks in your mind

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I play d4 and meet many d6, e6, c6 and Nf6 responses. When I am black, I meet quite a lot of e4 and d4, but also quite a lot of d3, e3 and Nf3. Not as many as when I am white though. Maybe it's not even 50%, but quite a huge percentage - once when I met 5 on the row, I was quite pissed and went all out sacking everything.

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Also, as Black I meet b3 quite often, going into a reversed Benoni pawn center, But White enjoys his double fianchetto.

Avatar of General-Mayhem

Seems like a "Which came first, the chicken or the egg" question to me

(Also maybe they think they're too good to be bound by classical logic/principles)

Avatar of AutisticCath

Because it looks cool even though it's basically ritual suicide. But hey, everyone's jumping off the bridge, why not me?



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Harry the h pawn is overrated. He's not very strong in the opening.

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When you don't know what you're doing, the longer you delay contact between the armies the longer you feel safe.

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I think it seems cool to lower-rated players. Everyone else is playing 1. e4, but they get to do something "different" by playing the King's Indian Attack or the Modern or something. But more likely, they don't care to learn opening theory (which may not be such a bad decision) and prefer to just fianchetto their bishops every game!

However, you can't make a judgement about hypermodern openings as a whole. At higher levels, some hypermodern openings ar popular and some aren't. Which ones are popular? The good ones. Things like the KID, the English, and the Dutch. Openings like the Modern, the Owens, and the straight King's Indian Attack (i.e. Nf3, g3, Bg2, 0-0, d3, Q/Re1, Nbd2, e4) are less popular at higher level for the simple reason that they're not considered quite as objectively strong.

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Well of course I can't take the openings as a whole :) on greater levels people know their theory better and usually have an opening repertoire.

On the other hand, I have met some really crazy stuff. Overall it doesn't matter too much though. Although Grob has helped me a lot, I gained 150 rating points with it :D

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I play the modern a lot in blitz because I can premove a lot early on. Eg g6 premoved, then Bg7 also premoved unless he plays b3, then Nf6 premoved unless he's played e4 in which case d6 first etc. I premove almost everything for about the first 10 moves as black and sometimes find I'm 30 seconds ahead very early on. 1 minute ahead on the clock is about equal to being a piece up in blitz.

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AIM-AceMove wrote:

Becouse they are fan of Fisher/Kasparov. Also they know only like 2 openings with black and with g6 they reply to anything basically - easier for them. Just launch Harry H pawn and they will lose.

Or if it's bullet and they are premoving the opening moves then 1.d4 g6 2. Bh6 Laughing

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Regicidal: When I see players playing modern defences, I usually move fast too, because I know that there is no real threat in their moves :D

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The so called weak players are only apparently playing the same game. Rules are made to be broken. Just my two cents.

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My rating isn't exactly as low as it appears to be, because I've only played maybe 3 games, but it's still awful: I'm rated about 900 on rapid in lichess, which I've heard translates to about 700 here, and I play basically only hypermodern openings. Here is why: I find it more fun than traditional pawn game openings. I mean, against 1. d4 I generally play f5, but other than that I play the Reti and the Alekhine. I just find them interesting openings, which lead to fun middle- and end-games. I used to play e4 and e5, but NO LONGER!